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| Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #223331] |
Mo, 10 Juli 2006 17:26 |
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Arash wrote:
IRNA
July 8, 2006
President: Zionist regime, root cause of Muslim nations' problems
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Zionist regime
is the root cause of problems of the Muslim nations.
In his inaugural address to the Ninth Conference of Foreign Ministers
of Iraqi Neighbors Plus Egypt and Bahrain, President Ahmadinejad said
that regional states and Muslim nations should mobilize their resources
to deal with Israel.
President Ahmadinejad said that the other challenge faced by Muslim
nations is threat and occupation citing the occupying regime.
"The Zionist regime is not of origin. It is a forgery and imposed
entity on the region", he said.
"Our enemies have set up the Zionist regime in the heart of the Muslim
World through numerous ploys as a means to create unity among
themselves and division among Muslim nations", President Ahmadinejad
said.
"They spared no effort to support the Zionist regime up to now.
They use huge among of money from pockets of their people to support
Israel. They also sacrificed their political philosophy in which they
believe 'liberalism' for the sake of the Zionist regime.
"The unlimited crimes of the Zionist regime in massacring defenseless
young Palestinians, destroying their homes and farms are done with the
support of Western governments. For them breaking the law and violating
the rights of Palestinian democratic government are all right", he
said.
"Unfortunately, certain powers regard the human crisis the Zionist
regime is creating as an opportunity for earning an income from arms
sales to regional governments. So that they impose backwardness to the
regional nations. Instead of spending on progress and development, they
spend their resources to purchase arms".
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> <DIV>President: Zionist regime, root cause of Muslim nations' problems</DIV>
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> <DIV>President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Zionist regime is
> the root cause of problems of the Muslim nations.
> <P>In his inaugural address to the Ninth Conference of Foreign Ministers of
> Iraqi Neighbors Plus Egypt and Bahrain, President Ahmadinejad said that regional
> states and Muslim nations should mobilize their resources to deal with
> Israel.</P>
> <P>President Ahmadinejad said that the other challenge faced by Muslim nations
> is threat and occupation citing the occupying regime. </P>
> <P>"The Zionist regime is not of origin. It is a forgery and imposed entity on
> the region", he said.</P>
> <P>"Our enemies have set up the Zionist regime in the heart of the Muslim World
> through numerous ploys as a means to create unity among themselves and division
> among Muslim nations", President Ahmadinejad said. </P>
> <P>"They spared no effort to support the Zionist regime up to now. </P>
> <P>They use huge among of money from pockets of their people to support Israel.
> They also sacrificed their political philosophy in which they believe
> 'liberalism' for the sake of the Zionist regime. </P>
> <P>"The unlimited crimes of the Zionist regime in massacring defenseless young
> Palestinians, destroying their homes and farms are done with the support of
> Western governments. For them breaking the law and violating the rights of
> Palestinian democratic government are all right", he said. </P>
> <P>"Unfortunately, certain powers regard the human crisis the Zionist regime is
> creating as an opportunity for earning an income from arms sales to regional
> governments. So that they impose backwardness to the regional nations. Instead
> of spending on progress and development, they spend their resources to purchase
> arms".</P>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #223436 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 06:04 |
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new archaeology findings[ university of Tel Aviv ] have proved
that Israel existed in the Palestine area only from 7th century BC
when Abraham moved out from the Babylon with is troops of Jews .
Israel did not exist before the 7th century BC ,
not earlier than this date .
KANGAROOISTAN wrote:
> Arash wrote:
> IRNA
> July 8, 2006
>
> President: Zionist regime, root cause of Muslim nations' problems
>
> President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Zionist regime
> is the root cause of problems of the Muslim nations.
> In his inaugural address to the Ninth Conference of Foreign Ministers
> of Iraqi Neighbors Plus Egypt and Bahrain, President Ahmadinejad said
> that regional states and Muslim nations should mobilize their resources
> to deal with Israel.
>
> President Ahmadinejad said that the other challenge faced by Muslim
> nations is threat and occupation citing the occupying regime.
>
> "The Zionist regime is not of origin. It is a forgery and imposed
> entity on the region", he said.
>
> "Our enemies have set up the Zionist regime in the heart of the Muslim
> World through numerous ploys as a means to create unity among
> themselves and division among Muslim nations", President Ahmadinejad
> said.
>
> "They spared no effort to support the Zionist regime up to now.
>
> They use huge among of money from pockets of their people to support
> Israel. They also sacrificed their political philosophy in which they
> believe 'liberalism' for the sake of the Zionist regime.
>
> "The unlimited crimes of the Zionist regime in massacring defenseless
> young Palestinians, destroying their homes and farms are done with the
> support of Western governments. For them breaking the law and violating
> the rights of Palestinian democratic government are all right", he
> said.
>
> "Unfortunately, certain powers regard the human crisis the Zionist
> regime is creating as an opportunity for earning an income from arms
> sales to regional governments. So that they impose backwardness to the
> regional nations. Instead of spending on progress and development, they
> spend their resources to purchase arms".
>
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> > <DIV>President: Zionist regime, root cause of Muslim nations' problems</DIV>
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> > <DIV>President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Zionist regime is
> > the root cause of problems of the Muslim nations.
> > <P>In his inaugural address to the Ninth Conference of Foreign Ministers of
> > Iraqi Neighbors Plus Egypt and Bahrain, President Ahmadinejad said that regional
> > states and Muslim nations should mobilize their resources to deal with
> > Israel.</P>
> > <P>President Ahmadinejad said that the other challenge faced by Muslim nations
> > is threat and occupation citing the occupying regime. </P>
> > <P>"The Zionist regime is not of origin. It is a forgery and imposed entity on
> > the region", he said.</P>
> > <P>"Our enemies have set up the Zionist regime in the heart of the Muslim World
> > through numerous ploys as a means to create unity among themselves and division
> > among Muslim nations", President Ahmadinejad said. </P>
> > <P>"They spared no effort to support the Zionist regime up to now. </P>
> > <P>They use huge among of money from pockets of their people to support Israel.
> > They also sacrificed their political philosophy in which they believe
> > 'liberalism' for the sake of the Zionist regime. </P>
> > <P>"The unlimited crimes of the Zionist regime in massacring defenseless young
> > Palestinians, destroying their homes and farms are done with the support of
> > Western governments. For them breaking the law and violating the rights of
> > Palestinian democratic government are all right", he said. </P>
> > <P>"Unfortunately, certain powers regard the human crisis the Zionist regime is
> > creating as an opportunity for earning an income from arms sales to regional
> > governments. So that they impose backwardness to the regional nations. Instead
> > of spending on progress and development, they spend their resources to purchase
> > arms".</P>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #223452 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 07:10 |
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On 10 Jul 2006 08:26:33 -0700, "KANGAROOISTAN"
<theoldman [at] kangarooistan.com.au> wrote:
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>Arash wrote:
> IRNA
> July 8, 2006
>
> President: Zionist regime, root cause of Muslim nations' problems
>
> President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Zionist regime
>is the root cause of problems of the Muslim nations.
> In his inaugural address to the Ninth Conference of Foreign Ministers
>of Iraqi Neighbors Plus Egypt and Bahrain, President Ahmadinejad said
>that regional states and Muslim nations should mobilize their resources
>to deal with Israel.
The Jews were there long before the "Palestinians". Palestine is a
very recent monica and in reality there is no such thing as a
Palestinian.
> President Ahmadinejad said that the other challenge faced by Muslim
>nations is threat and occupation citing the occupying regime.
>
>"The Zionist regime is not of origin. It is a forgery and imposed
>entity on the region", he said.
>
>"Our enemies have set up the Zionist regime in the heart of the Muslim
>World through numerous ploys as a means to create unity among
>themselves and division among Muslim nations", President Ahmadinejad
>said.
>
> "They spared no effort to support the Zionist regime up to now.
>
> They use huge among of money from pockets of their people to support
>Israel. They also sacrificed their political philosophy in which they
>believe 'liberalism' for the sake of the Zionist regime.
>
> "The unlimited crimes of the Zionist regime in massacring defenseless
>young Palestinians, destroying their homes and farms are done with the
>support of Western governments. For them breaking the law and violating
>the rights of Palestinian democratic government are all right", he
>said.
>
> "Unfortunately, certain powers regard the human crisis the Zionist
>regime is creating as an opportunity for earning an income from arms
>sales to regional governments. So that they impose backwardness to the
>regional nations. Instead of spending on progress and development, they
>spend their resources to purchase arms".
>
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>> <DIV>July 8, 2006</DIV>
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>> <DIV>President: Zionist regime, root cause of Muslim nations' problems</DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV>President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday that the Zionist regime is
>> the root cause of problems of the Muslim nations.
>> <P>In his inaugural address to the Ninth Conference of Foreign Ministers of
>> Iraqi Neighbors Plus Egypt and Bahrain, President Ahmadinejad said that regional
>> states and Muslim nations should mobilize their resources to deal with
>> Israel.</P>
>> <P>President Ahmadinejad said that the other challenge faced by Muslim nations
>> is threat and occupation citing the occupying regime. </P>
>> <P>"The Zionist regime is not of origin. It is a forgery and imposed entity on
>> the region", he said.</P>
>> <P>"Our enemies have set up the Zionist regime in the heart of the Muslim World
>> through numerous ploys as a means to create unity among themselves and division
>> among Muslim nations", President Ahmadinejad said. </P>
>> <P>"They spared no effort to support the Zionist regime up to now. </P>
>> <P>They use huge among of money from pockets of their people to support Israel.
>> They also sacrificed their political philosophy in which they believe
>> 'liberalism' for the sake of the Zionist regime. </P>
>> <P>"The unlimited crimes of the Zionist regime in massacring defenseless young
>> Palestinians, destroying their homes and farms are done with the support of
>> Western governments. For them breaking the law and violating the rights of
>> Palestinian democratic government are all right", he said. </P>
>> <P>"Unfortunately, certain powers regard the human crisis the Zionist regime is
>> creating as an opportunity for earning an income from arms sales to regional
>> governments. So that they impose backwardness to the regional nations. Instead
>> of spending on progress and development, they spend their resources to purchase
>> arms".</P>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #223463 ] |
Di, 11 Juli 2006 09:16 |
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NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
other in the Jewish Wars. That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #224784 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 11:46 |
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the Land of the Palestine was originally an Egyptian territory under
the control of Ramasee-II and under Ramasee-III, but
the King of Assyria destroyed the Jews in the land of the Cannan
, which
during the 7th century BC, was composed of the state of Israel in
North Cannaan , and
Judea in the south Canaan ,
the Assyrian King destroyed the State of Israel in North Canaan ,
and the Jews escaped to south Canaan and took refuge in the State
of Judea ,
where they selcted their new King Joshua, who found the Hebrew
scripture as a form of religious writing,
and centralised the Jewish religion into a new monotheist religion
from a poly-theist religion which existed in Israel and in Judea
before the invention of the Hebrew writing.
the Hebrew writing helped King Joshua to force the Jews
to change from polytheist religion into a monotheist religion
during the 7th century BC .
King Joshua wanted to conquer back the state of Israel from the
Assyrian King,but Joshua was killed by the Assyrian King .
One century late r= the 6th century BC , the Babylon King destroyed
the State of Judea and took all Jews as slaves to Babylon .
Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
>
> If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
> ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
> would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
> Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
> other in the Jewish Wars. That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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Do, 13 Juli 2006 12:18 |
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Jews were nomads during the 12th - 11th century BC in the Palestien
area , which
was called the Canaan region ,
the people from the Sea [ from Cyprus ] were the Philistines who
invaded the Canaan sea coast and took over the flat lands , and
forced the Jews to escape to the mountains in Cis-Jordan in the
west of Canaan ,
the Jews then changed their life style in the mountains in
Cis-Jordan
because the Jews had to tilt the lands also in order to grow
wheat for the people and for their cattles .
the Philistines ate lots of pork meat bred
along the sea coast , but the
Jews did not eat pork meat in the mountains in Cis-Jordan .
Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
>
> If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
> ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
> would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
> Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
> other in the Jewish Wars. That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #224798 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 12:29 |
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This "account" you quote but give no reference to, puts the miseries
the Jews have suffered throughout the ages at the feet of the kings of
their then polytheist neighbours.
However, the Jews had fought many wars and their scattering was not the
result of any single cataclysmic event. To say that the Assyrian king
took all Jews as slaves to Babylon and so they wept, is simplistic.
History is not so neat. Babylon fell and the Persians allowed the Jews
back but then they were again ran out by the Romans. The truth is that
the Jews were scattered because they were no longer united as a tribe.
Their hearts and minds were divided and their eventual military defeat
was an effect and not a cause of their loss of Zion. The Jews of that
time had already lost Zion in their hearts.
In modern times the British and Americans gave them weapons to come
back and violate the people of the region who had lived there for
hundreds of years. These descendents of polytheists had adopted the
Jewish traditions, prayed to the Jewish God and were no longer
barbarians but people who lead peaceful lives. They were Arabs and they
lived in peace side by side with the Jews that remained in that land
and they were monotheists.
The Jews who did not wage war with his neighbours and suffer defeat and
exile, who stayed behind and taught the teachings of The One God to his
barbarian neighbours, he brought the light onto the nations to the
nations. But those who returned armed with American weapons, they came
with age old vengence, looking to slay long dead enemies and take by
force what they have lost by folly.
I suggest you read "The Wars of the Jews or History of the Destruction
of Jerusalem" by Flavius Josephus, a Jew who sought to chronicle the
chaos of those early times of Jewish tribulations. Its an archived text
and you can easily google it up. You will see, that while historical
events are not always black and white, good and evil ideas can be seen
in the results of the actions of the men who follow them.
In short, there have always been Jews, but this modern Israel which is
a trap for the Jews, who holds hostage Jews of every creed who were
foolish enough to buy into the whole Zionism shtick, there has never
before been such a nation of fools. The Jews who fled to Europe, they
should have preached to the European barbarians instead of offering
them ursury.
Komin wrote:
> the Land of the Palestine was originally an Egyptian territory under
> the control of Ramasee-II and under Ramasee-III, but
> the King of Assyria destroyed the Jews in the land of the Cannan
> , which
> during the 7th century BC, was composed of the state of Israel in
> North Cannaan , and
> Judea in the south Canaan ,
> the Assyrian King destroyed the State of Israel in North Canaan ,
> and the Jews escaped to south Canaan and took refuge in the State
> of Judea ,
> where they selcted their new King Joshua, who found the Hebrew
> scripture as a form of religious writing,
> and centralised the Jewish religion into a new monotheist religion
> from a poly-theist religion which existed in Israel and in Judea
> before the invention of the Hebrew writing.
>
> the Hebrew writing helped King Joshua to force the Jews
> to change from polytheist religion into a monotheist religion
> during the 7th century BC .
>
> King Joshua wanted to conquer back the state of Israel from the
> Assyrian King,but Joshua was killed by the Assyrian King .
>
> One century late r= the 6th century BC , the Babylon King destroyed
> the State of Judea and took all Jews as slaves to Babylon .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> > NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> > ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> > that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> > only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> > nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> > religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
> >
> > If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
> > ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
> > would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
> > Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
> > other in the Jewish Wars. That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> > Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> > will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> > Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> > TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> > violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> > the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> > would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> > Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> > means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> > two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> > peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> > fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> > cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> > towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #224998 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 02:57 |
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simple simon,
it was the Babylonian King who transferred the Jews as slaves to
Babylon [ 550 BC] ,
not the Assyrian King [ 700 BC ] .
Canaan [ Palestine ] belonged to the Egyptians [ 1300 BC ]
Philistines invaded Canaan sea coast [ 1100-1000 BC ]
Foundation of the State of Israel --- [ around 800 BC]
Foundation of the state of Judea -- [ around 800 BC ]
Destruction of Israel [ 700 BC] by the Assyrian King .
Jews were a displaced people ,
now Israel is a province of the USA .
simonsmalldick wrote:
> This "account" you quote but give no reference to, puts the miseries
> the Jews have suffered throughout the ages at the feet of the kings of
> their then polytheist neighbours.
>
> However, the Jews had fought many wars and their scattering was not the
> result of any single cataclysmic event. To say that the Assyrian king
> took all Jews as slaves to Babylon and so they wept, is simplistic.
> History is not so neat. Babylon fell and the Persians allowed the Jews
> back but then they were again ran out by the Romans. The truth is that
> the Jews were scattered because they were no longer united as a tribe.
> Their hearts and minds were divided and their eventual military defeat
> was an effect and not a cause of their loss of Zion. The Jews of that
> time had already lost Zion in their hearts.
>
> In modern times the British and Americans gave them weapons to come
> back and violate the people of the region who had lived there for
> hundreds of years. These descendents of polytheists had adopted the
> Jewish traditions, prayed to the Jewish God and were no longer
> barbarians but people who lead peaceful lives. They were Arabs and they
> lived in peace side by side with the Jews that remained in that land
> and they were monotheists.
>
> The Jews who did not wage war with his neighbours and suffer defeat and
> exile, who stayed behind and taught the teachings of The One God to his
> barbarian neighbours, he brought the light onto the nations to the
> nations. But those who returned armed with American weapons, they came
> with age old vengence, looking to slay long dead enemies and take by
> force what they have lost by folly.
>
> I suggest you read "The Wars of the Jews or History of the Destruction
> of Jerusalem" by Flavius Josephus, a Jew who sought to chronicle the
> chaos of those early times of Jewish tribulations. Its an archived text
> and you can easily google it up. You will see, that while historical
> events are not always black and white, good and evil ideas can be seen
> in the results of the actions of the men who follow them.
>
> In short, there have always been Jews, but this modern Israel which is
> a trap for the Jews, who holds hostage Jews of every creed who were
> foolish enough to buy into the whole Zionism shtick, there has never
> before been such a nation of fools. The Jews who fled to Europe, they
> should have preached to the European barbarians instead of offering
> them ursury.
>
> Komin wrote:
> > the Land of the Palestine was originally an Egyptian territory under
> > the control of Ramasee-II and under Ramasee-III, but
> > the King of Assyria destroyed the Jews in the land of the Cannan
> > , which
> > during the 7th century BC, was composed of the state of Israel in
> > North Cannaan , and
> > Judea in the south Canaan ,
> > the Assyrian King destroyed the State of Israel in North Canaan ,
> > and the Jews escaped to south Canaan and took refuge in the State
> > of Judea ,
> > where they selcted their new King Joshua, who found the Hebrew
> > scripture as a form of religious writing,
> > and centralised the Jewish religion into a new monotheist religion
> > from a poly-theist religion which existed in Israel and in Judea
> > before the invention of the Hebrew writing.
> >
> > the Hebrew writing helped King Joshua to force the Jews
> > to change from polytheist religion into a monotheist religion
> > during the 7th century BC .
> >
> > King Joshua wanted to conquer back the state of Israel from the
> > Assyrian King,but Joshua was killed by the Assyrian King .
> >
> > One century late r= the 6th century BC , the Babylon King destroyed
> > the State of Judea and took all Jews as slaves to Babylon .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> > > NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> > > ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> > > that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> > > only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> > > nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> > > religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
> > >
> > > If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
> > > ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
> > > would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
> > > Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
> > > other in the Jewish Wars. That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> > > Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> > > will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> > > Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> > > TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> > > violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> > > the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> > > would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> > > Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> > > means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> > > two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> > > peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> > > fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> > > cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> > > towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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Komin wrote:
> simple simon,
>
> it was the Babylonian King who transferred the Jews as slaves to
> Babylon [ 550 BC] ,
> not the Assyrian King [ 700 BC ] .
>
> Canaan [ Palestine ] belonged to the Egyptians [ 1300 BC ]
>
> Philistines invaded Canaan sea coast [ 1100-1000 BC ]
>
> Foundation of the State of Israel --- [ around 800 BC]
> Foundation of the state of Judea -- [ around 800 BC ]
> Destruction of Israel [ 700 BC] by the Assyrian King .
>
> Jews were a displaced people ,
> now Israel is a province of the USA .
Sorry my mistake about the king who took the Jews as slaves. I didn't
recheck what I typed. As I said, yes, there was a land of the Jews in
bygone era but the state that is Israel now, is not that land. The
people of that long ago land were ideologically divided and as a result
that land of the past tore itself apart and was eventually annexed by
the Romans. The character of Israel of the past and the modern Israel
is totally different, its principles are different, its people are
different. For one thing, the Israel of the past preached obedience to
the One God. This monster called Israel now preaches obedience to a
blood thirsty and mad idol that is Zionism. This thing that is called
Israel is as you say, a province of the USA that is a trap for the
Jewish people and a tool to serve the American expansionist interests
in the Middle East. A true Jew would see it for what it is and so all
this talk about land of the Jews, Torah, history etc, is all crap. For
such a bunch of dupes to ask others to rally to it against the people
it victimizes, its incredible arrogant.
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Fr, 14 Juli 2006 10:01 |
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On 13 Jul 2006 03:29:28 -0700, "simonsmalldick"
<illithid_10001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
[snip]
>In modern times the British and Americans gave them weapons
[snip]
When did the British or Americans give them weapons? Only since 1967
has the U.S. government provided military aid that the Israeli
government has used to _purchase_ armaments from U.S.-based companies.
As for Britain, show you know what you're talking about by naming any
arms sales from Britain. I recall reading that Britain actually gave
arms to the Arabs when they withdrew from Mandatory Palestine.
The main country missing here is France, which was Israel's key ally
until 1967. Also missing is Germany, which has sold a certain amount
of military hardware to Israel. Somehow, it makes you happier to blame
the "Anglo-Saxon" countries.
Michael
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Fr, 14 Juli 2006 10:03 |
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On 13 Jul 2006 18:24:34 -0700, "simonsmalldick"
<illithid_10001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>Komin wrote:
>> simple simon,
>>
>> it was the Babylonian King who transferred the Jews as slaves to
>> Babylon [ 550 BC] ,
>> not the Assyrian King [ 700 BC ] .
>>
>> Canaan [ Palestine ] belonged to the Egyptians [ 1300 BC ]
>>
>> Philistines invaded Canaan sea coast [ 1100-1000 BC ]
>>
>> Foundation of the State of Israel --- [ around 800 BC]
>> Foundation of the state of Judea -- [ around 800 BC ]
>> Destruction of Israel [ 700 BC] by the Assyrian King .
>>
>> Jews were a displaced people ,
>> now Israel is a province of the USA .
>
>Sorry my mistake about the king who took the Jews as slaves. I didn't
>recheck what I typed.
[snip]
You've never read the Bible, right? Assyria took over Israel/Samaria,
the northern kingdom. Later, Babylonia captured Judah, the southern
kingdom. Both were Jewish kingdoms.
If you know so little about the history of the Land of Israel,
shouldn't you study more before spouting off as if you're an expert?
Michael
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Fr, 14 Juli 2006 13:06 |
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Komin wrote:
> Jews were nomads during the 12th - 11th century BC in the Palestien
> area , which
> was called the Canaan region ,
>
>
> the people from the Sea [ from Cyprus ] were the Philistines who
> invaded the Canaan sea coast and took over the flat lands , and
> forced the Jews to escape to the mountains in Cis-Jordan in the
> west of Canaan ,
> the Jews then changed their life style in the mountains in
> Cis-Jordan
> because the Jews had to tilt the lands also in order to grow
> wheat for the people and for their cattles .
>
> the Philistines ate lots of pork meat bred
> along the sea coast , but the
> Jews did not eat pork meat in the mountains in Cis-Jordan .
>
>
>
>
> Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> > NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> > ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> > that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> > only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> > nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> > religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
> >
If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
other in the Jewish Wars.
Some really interesting debate on the history, and in it lies the
answers for the future
So where too from here for paslsetine and the jews
Jews and muslims have been around for about the same time
If yo accept the first wife of Abraham had a son who founded the muslim
line, it was a latter son who founded the jewish and then the christian
lines
WHY ARE THERE SO FEW JEWS, ok its one family with no incoming new
families , perhaps , and they really have made the same mistake so
many times , they think ythey will get gods help so launch wars
against huge odds trying to relive the daid myth and get smashed
Clearly the muslims are expanding and will continue to do so
1,500,000,000 muskims
15,000,000 jews both set to double in about 20 yrs
3,000,000,000 muslims
30,000,000 muslims
still 100 to 1 jews are stuffed big time and as muslims own 75% of the
worlds oil , they are fast getting the money the white christian
capitalists claim asa proof god loves white christians spoo made the
smarter and richer
White christian capitalist countrys are all aging shrinking in debt
with unfunded age care plans , energy reliant economys rely on muslims
for oil , and bombing the people who own that oil
ISRAEL IS DOOMED BIG TIME
the west is going to be bled to death in futile attempts to prove they
can make bigger and bigger bombs
muslims will go on having babies and raising the price of oil till the
west collapses
ISLAM WILL CLEARLY RULE THE WORLD IN 34 yrs AT PRESENT GROWTH RATES
PERHAPS SOONER AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EXAMINE THE FACTS STATS AND
FIGURES THAT ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN
the numbers of preople who flood into islam when they see judaism
smashed to pulp and christianity fold as people actually read the bible
and the koran, islam will grow faster and faster ,poor silly jews think
their god will still save then , even after 1945 , and christians still
think their god who they eat and drink his blood will save them should
check out how many christians survive a natural disaster, christians
die in exactly the same numbers as non christians in all disasters,
their god does not save a single person and never has
Mankind is on his own really , its mankind who will deciede who wins
the upcoming clasgh of civilizations , god will not intervene, muslims
will win inside 34 yrs at present growth rates they will be two thirds
of the worlds population and hold most of the worlds wealth as oil
transfers money to muslim countrys
who cares if jews hate their kids and want them all to die , they made
up their minds their children and granchildren all want to die and
there is nothing we can do to save them
like in massada, they all chose to commit suicide, well thats the way
history records their last great uprising, seems they learn nothing,
mother nature deals with such people very quickly , their genes are
removed, this time permanently i hope
and if any christians are alive in 34 yrs their children will probably
become muslims so as to avoid having to pay for their parents crimes,
as germans still pay for WW2 so christians must pay for WW3 and thats
going to take a thousand years at least
perhaps several thousand years , just for palestine, iraq and
afghanistan,and even longer for voting in bush bliar and hoWARd
www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
www.islamonline.com
That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> > Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> > will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> > Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> > TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> > violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> > the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> > would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> > Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> > means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> > two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> > peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> > fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> > cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> > towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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Fr, 14 Juli 2006 13:14 |
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Kangaroostan ,
Jews came together as a nation in 700 BC,
Muslems came together as a religious group in 700AD ,
the first one is BC, the second one is AD .
KANGAROOISTAN wrote:
> Komin wrote:
> > Jews were nomads during the 12th - 11th century BC in the Palestien
> > area , which
> > was called the Canaan region ,
> >
> >
> > the people from the Sea [ from Cyprus ] were the Philistines who
> > invaded the Canaan sea coast and took over the flat lands , and
> > forced the Jews to escape to the mountains in Cis-Jordan in the
> > west of Canaan ,
> > the Jews then changed their life style in the mountains in
> > Cis-Jordan
> > because the Jews had to tilt the lands also in order to grow
> > wheat for the people and for their cattles .
> >
> > the Philistines ate lots of pork meat bred
> > along the sea coast , but the
> > Jews did not eat pork meat in the mountains in Cis-Jordan .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> > > NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> > > ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> > > that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> > > only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> > > nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> > > religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
> > >
> If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
> ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
> would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
> Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
> other in the Jewish Wars.
> Some really interesting debate on the history, and in it lies the
> answers for the future
>
> So where too from here for paslsetine and the jews
>
> Jews and muslims have been around for about the same time
>
> If yo accept the first wife of Abraham had a son who founded the muslim
> line, it was a latter son who founded the jewish and then the christian
> lines
>
> WHY ARE THERE SO FEW JEWS, ok its one family with no incoming new
> families , perhaps , and they really have made the same mistake so
> many times , they think ythey will get gods help so launch wars
> against huge odds trying to relive the daid myth and get smashed
>
> Clearly the muslims are expanding and will continue to do so
> 1,500,000,000 muskims
> 15,000,000 jews both set to double in about 20 yrs
>
> 3,000,000,000 muslims
> 30,000,000 muslims
>
> still 100 to 1 jews are stuffed big time and as muslims own 75% of the
> worlds oil , they are fast getting the money the white christian
> capitalists claim asa proof god loves white christians spoo made the
> smarter and richer
>
> White christian capitalist countrys are all aging shrinking in debt
> with unfunded age care plans , energy reliant economys rely on muslims
> for oil , and bombing the people who own that oil
>
> ISRAEL IS DOOMED BIG TIME
>
> the west is going to be bled to death in futile attempts to prove they
> can make bigger and bigger bombs
>
> muslims will go on having babies and raising the price of oil till the
> west collapses
>
> ISLAM WILL CLEARLY RULE THE WORLD IN 34 yrs AT PRESENT GROWTH RATES
>
> PERHAPS SOONER AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EXAMINE THE FACTS STATS AND
> FIGURES THAT ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN
>
>
> the numbers of preople who flood into islam when they see judaism
> smashed to pulp and christianity fold as people actually read the bible
> and the koran, islam will grow faster and faster ,poor silly jews think
> their god will still save then , even after 1945 , and christians still
> think their god who they eat and drink his blood will save them should
> check out how many christians survive a natural disaster, christians
> die in exactly the same numbers as non christians in all disasters,
> their god does not save a single person and never has
>
> Mankind is on his own really , its mankind who will deciede who wins
> the upcoming clasgh of civilizations , god will not intervene, muslims
> will win inside 34 yrs at present growth rates they will be two thirds
> of the worlds population and hold most of the worlds wealth as oil
> transfers money to muslim countrys
>
> who cares if jews hate their kids and want them all to die , they made
> up their minds their children and granchildren all want to die and
> there is nothing we can do to save them
>
> like in massada, they all chose to commit suicide, well thats the way
> history records their last great uprising, seems they learn nothing,
> mother nature deals with such people very quickly , their genes are
> removed, this time permanently i hope
>
> and if any christians are alive in 34 yrs their children will probably
> become muslims so as to avoid having to pay for their parents crimes,
> as germans still pay for WW2 so christians must pay for WW3 and thats
> going to take a thousand years at least
>
> perhaps several thousand years , just for palestine, iraq and
> afghanistan,and even longer for voting in bush bliar and hoWARd
> www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
> www.islamonline.com
>
>
>
> That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> > > Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> > > will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> > > Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> > > TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> > > violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> > > the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> > > would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> > > Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> > > means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> > > two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> > > peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> > > fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> > > cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> > > towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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Sa, 15 Juli 2006 05:58 |
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> On 13 Jul 2006 03:29:28 -0700, "simonsmalldick"
> <illithid_10001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>In modern times the British and Americans gave them weapons
What' wrong with giving weapons to the Jews ..
to help them defend themselves,... to protect
themselves against those who wanted to chase them
out of Israel...?
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Sa, 15 Juli 2006 12:29 |
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Komin wrote:
> Kangaroostan ,
> Jews came together as a nation in 700 BC,
>
> Muslems came together as a religious group in 700AD ,
>
> the first one is BC, the second one is AD .
GRANTED THIS IS THE FACTS IN REAL TERMS
BUT BOTH DO CLAIM TO DESEND FROM ABRAHAM ALONG DIFFERENT LINES, muslims
from the first born son ,
But if jews have been around for as long or longer than muslims, we
shall assume muslims are winning the numbers game hands down , and
likely to one day go on expanding till they rule the world
they have never had it easy , but still go on growing in number
with oil dollars its very likely we shall see even greater spread,
saudi arabia alone helps build many many mosques and more every year
100,000 plus more muslims every day and less christians ,
islam will be two thirds of the worlds population inside 34 yrs at
present rates of growth
with oil dollars flowing strong its likely to increase the spread of
islambut muslims now number 100 times more than jews
>
>
>
>
> KANGAROOISTAN wrote:
> > Komin wrote:
> > > Jews were nomads during the 12th - 11th century BC in the Palestien
> > > area , which
> > > was called the Canaan region ,
> > >
> > >
> > > the people from the Sea [ from Cyprus ] were the Philistines who
> > > invaded the Canaan sea coast and took over the flat lands , and
> > > forced the Jews to escape to the mountains in Cis-Jordan in the
> > > west of Canaan ,
> > > the Jews then changed their life style in the mountains in
> > > Cis-Jordan
> > > because the Jews had to tilt the lands also in order to grow
> > > wheat for the people and for their cattles .
> > >
> > > the Philistines ate lots of pork meat bred
> > > along the sea coast , but the
> > > Jews did not eat pork meat in the mountains in Cis-Jordan .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cast not pearls before swine wrote:
> > > > NO. Until recently, there was no such thing as an Israeli. Jews are not
> > > > ONE people. If you look at the different jewish sects, you will find
> > > > that they each hold views that are antithecal to each other. "Jews" can
> > > > only be united under the godless and brutish banner of secular Israeli
> > > > nationalism. A truly nationalistic Jew is anti-God and a truly
> > > > religious Jew cannot support Zionist Israel.
> > > >
> > If ever the Jews didn't have an enemy to commit atrocities to, if they
> > ever really look to their Tanakh and adhere to its teaching, Israel
> > would tear itself apart in a civil war. That was why Old Israel fell.
> > Before the Romans kicked them out, the Jews were already killing each
> > other in the Jewish Wars.
> > Some really interesting debate on the history, and in it lies the
> > answers for the future
> >
> > So where too from here for paslsetine and the jews
> >
> > Jews and muslims have been around for about the same time
> >
> > If yo accept the first wife of Abraham had a son who founded the muslim
> > line, it was a latter son who founded the jewish and then the christian
> > lines
> >
> > WHY ARE THERE SO FEW JEWS, ok its one family with no incoming new
> > families , perhaps , and they really have made the same mistake so
> > many times , they think ythey will get gods help so launch wars
> > against huge odds trying to relive the daid myth and get smashed
> >
> > Clearly the muslims are expanding and will continue to do so
> > 1,500,000,000 muskims
> > 15,000,000 jews both set to double in about 20 yrs
> >
> > 3,000,000,000 muslims
> > 30,000,000 muslims
> >
> > still 100 to 1 jews are stuffed big time and as muslims own 75% of the
> > worlds oil , they are fast getting the money the white christian
> > capitalists claim asa proof god loves white christians spoo made the
> > smarter and richer
> >
> > White christian capitalist countrys are all aging shrinking in debt
> > with unfunded age care plans , energy reliant economys rely on muslims
> > for oil , and bombing the people who own that oil
> >
> > ISRAEL IS DOOMED BIG TIME
> >
> > the west is going to be bled to death in futile attempts to prove they
> > can make bigger and bigger bombs
> >
> > muslims will go on having babies and raising the price of oil till the
> > west collapses
> >
> > ISLAM WILL CLEARLY RULE THE WORLD IN 34 yrs AT PRESENT GROWTH RATES
> >
> > PERHAPS SOONER AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EXAMINE THE FACTS STATS AND
> > FIGURES THAT ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN
> >
> >
> > the numbers of preople who flood into islam when they see judaism
> > smashed to pulp and christianity fold as people actually read the bible
> > and the koran, islam will grow faster and faster ,poor silly jews think
> > their god will still save then , even after 1945 , and christians still
> > think their god who they eat and drink his blood will save them should
> > check out how many christians survive a natural disaster, christians
> > die in exactly the same numbers as non christians in all disasters,
> > their god does not save a single person and never has
> >
> > Mankind is on his own really , its mankind who will deciede who wins
> > the upcoming clasgh of civilizations , god will not intervene, muslims
> > will win inside 34 yrs at present growth rates they will be two thirds
> > of the worlds population and hold most of the worlds wealth as oil
> > transfers money to muslim countrys
> >
> > who cares if jews hate their kids and want them all to die , they made
> > up their minds their children and granchildren all want to die and
> > there is nothing we can do to save them
> >
> > like in massada, they all chose to commit suicide, well thats the way
> > history records their last great uprising, seems they learn nothing,
> > mother nature deals with such people very quickly , their genes are
> > removed, this time permanently i hope
> >
> > and if any christians are alive in 34 yrs their children will probably
> > become muslims so as to avoid having to pay for their parents crimes,
> > as germans still pay for WW2 so christians must pay for WW3 and thats
> > going to take a thousand years at least
> >
> > perhaps several thousand years , just for palestine, iraq and
> > afghanistan,and even longer for voting in bush bliar and hoWARd
> > www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
> > www.islamonline.com
> >
> >
> >
> > That was the reason for Galut, it was for the
> > > > Jews to turn back from Heresy and redeem themselves. Today's Israel
> > > > will never be the Zion of King Solomon's days. The Jews must cleanse
> > > > Judaism of heresy before REAL Israel can be reborn. That is the REAL
> > > > TRUTH of the matter. Until Judaism itself is cleansed there can only be
> > > > violence and disorder in False Israel. If the Palestinians were out of
> > > > the picture, it would be Jews against against the Goy and finally it
> > > > would be Jews against followers of the Tanakh. The liquidation of the
> > > > Palestinian people would endanger all other races on Earth because it
> > > > means that the race of MEN has allowed the race of BEASTS that walks on
> > > > two legs to devour one of his own. The fate of all MEN will then be in
> > > > peril. The FACE OF THE BEAST is emerging because the BEAST no longer
> > > > fears HUMANITY because the leaders of MEN have become dull and greedy
> > > > cowards. They listen to comfortable lies, are self-absorbed and toil
> > > > towards useless fantasy. They forget what it means to be HUMAN.
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So, 16 Juli 2006 02:38 |
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What is wrong with giving weapons to the
Hezbollah ?
Bald eagle wrote:
> > On 13 Jul 2006 03:29:28 -0700, "simonsmalldick"
> > <illithid_10001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>In modern times the British and Americans gave them weapons
>
> What' wrong with giving weapons to the Jews ..
> to help them defend themselves,... to protect
> themselves against those who wanted to chase them
> out of Israel...?
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So, 16 Juli 2006 03:05 |
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"Komin" <veakrin [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153010292.244013.270320 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> Hezbollah ?
What' wrong with giving a chopper to
a deranged person !
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225472 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 04:00 |
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Komin wrote:
> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> Hezbollah ?
Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
aggression.
>
>
> Bald eagle wrote:
> > > On 13 Jul 2006 03:29:28 -0700, "simonsmalldick"
> > > <illithid_10001 [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>In modern times the British and Americans gave them weapons
> >
> > What' wrong with giving weapons to the Jews ..
> > to help them defend themselves,... to protect
> > themselves against those who wanted to chase them
> > out of Israel...?
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225480 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 04:40 |
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Bald eagle wrote:
> "Komin" <veakrin [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1153010292.244013.270320 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> > Hezbollah ?
>
> What' wrong with giving a chopper to
> a deranged person !
Nothing, the deranged person would most likely kill himself with the
chopter.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225503 ] |
So, 16 Juli 2006 06:27 |
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<rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153017636.262476.302640 [at] p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Bald eagle wrote:
>> "Komin" <veakrin [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153010292.244013.270320 [at] m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> > What is wrong with giving weapons to the
>> > Hezbollah ?
>>
>> What' wrong with giving a chopper to
>> a deranged person !
>
> Nothing, the deranged person would most likely kill himself with the
> chopter.
>
You are an idiot and a SOB to do so...giving a chopper to
kill himself.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225686 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 04:20 |
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<rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Komin wrote:
>> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
>> Hezbollah ?
>
> Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
> aggression.
For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
the Jews out of Israel ?
If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
and the sworn objectives of their existence.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225690 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 04:29 |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:20:38 +0800, "Bald eagle" <Baldeagle [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
><rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Komin wrote:
>>> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
>>> Hezbollah ?
>>
>> Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
>> aggression.
>
>For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
>the Jews out of Israel ?
>
>If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
>and the sworn objectives of their existence.
Australia is considering donating a modern warship to Israel because
of Hezbollah and the need to end them and their cohorts
Petzl
--
Islam pagan horror cult of the Moon God
<http://home.iprimus.com.au/petzl/>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225705 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 05:23 |
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Bald eagle wrote:
> <rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Komin wrote:
> >> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> >> Hezbollah ?
> >
> > Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
> > aggression.
>
> For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
> the Jews out of Israel ?
Both. Israel is an island in a sea of Muslims. Time is on the Muslims
side. This experiment will eventually turn out to be myth. It's hope
against hope. Israel can not surrive.
>
> If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
> and the sworn objectives of their existence.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225709 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 05:35 |
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rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> Bald eagle wrote:
> > <rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Komin wrote:
> > >> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> > >> Hezbollah ?
> > >
> > > Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
> > > aggression.
> >
> > For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
> > the Jews out of Israel ?
>
> Both. Israel is an island in a sea of Muslims. Time is on the Muslims
> side. This experiment will eventually turn out to be myth. It's hope
> against hope. Israel can not surrive.
ISRAEL MAY SURVIVE
WHEN THEY HAVE GIVEN BACK EVERY SQUARE INCH OF MUSLIM LAND AND PAID IF
FULL FOR EVERY DROP OF MUSLIM BLOOD EVER SPILT plus costs and interest
WHEN THE WORLD HAS PAID FULL COMPENSATION
AND EVERY WAR CRIMINAL POLLY AND JOURNO AND PERSON WHO ASSISTED EVERY
WAR CRIMINAL
ANY JEWS STILL ALIVE WILL BE ISRAEL
UNTIL THEY SEE THE ERRORS IN THEIR RELIGION AND BECOME MUSLIMS
BUT THE NATION OF ISRAEL THAT WHITE CHRISTIANS CREATED IN PALESTINE IS
DOOMED
ALL THAT REMAINS TO SEE IS HOW MUCH YOU AND YOUR GRANDCHILDREN MUST PAY
FOR ITS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
UNTIL IT IS PUT IN JAIL,
>
> >
> > If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
> > and the sworn objectives of their existence.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225765 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 11:55 |
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bald Eagle ,
Hezbollahs are freedom fighters for the oppressed prisoners in
Israeli prisons,
which are full political prisoners of Arab origine .
Bald eagle wrote:
> <rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Komin wrote:
> >> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> >> Hezbollah ?
> >
> > Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
> > aggression.
>
> For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
> the Jews out of Israel ?
>
> If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
> and the sworn objectives of their existence.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #225766 ] |
Mo, 17 Juli 2006 11:57 |
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xyz ,
unless the Jews use their Jewish nuclear bombs .
rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com wrote:
> Bald eagle wrote:
> > <rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Komin wrote:
> > >> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
> > >> Hezbollah ?
> > >
> > > Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
> > > aggression.
> >
> > For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
> > the Jews out of Israel ?
>
> Both. Israel is an island in a sea of Muslims. Time is on the Muslims
> side. This experiment will eventually turn out to be myth. It's hope
> against hope. Israel can not surrive.
>
> >
> > If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
> > and the sworn objectives of their existence.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #227131 ] |
Di, 18 Juli 2006 10:18 |
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They are also Islamic terrorists, trained and backed
by Iran, out to destroy Israel and drive the Jews away
from Israel.
Lebanon government allowed Hezbollah to operate
in southern Lebanon along the border with Israel.
They claimed credit for Israel's withdrawal from
Lebanon in 2000.
In a way, it was true...Israel did withdrew from
southern Lebanon, having occupied it since the
80s.
Israel agreed to withdraw, on condition that they
(Government of Lebanon) disarmed the Hezbollah
militia. It did not happened.
Hezbollah has since been conducting guerrilla
war ....making frequent incursion into Israel, killing
and kidnapping Israeli.
Israel tolerated the increasing Hezbollah's nonsense...until
last week.
It is time to settle the score now.
Using Tsun Tze's teachings as a guide, I can foresee
the war will be fought in several phases:
(with 3 vital objectives in mind:
1. to destroy Hezbollah's militia,
..2 to reoccupy southern Lebanon and
..3 to establish and maintain a sterile zone
along its entire border with Lebanon.)
First, Israel will soften Lebanon and Hezbollah
with heavy bombings,... targeting military installation,
strategic infrastructures ....and military logistics..
including fuel and ammunition dump.
Then, followed with heavy bombings along the
border belt,....to chase away innocent Lebanese
from the border areas...
Then move its powerful army columns into south
Lebanon....to destroy the Hezbollah militia.
The next phase start with the occupation of an area,
a belt of at least 15-20 miles deep (more if need be)
inside Lebanon, .... across the entire border, ...
Then continue with mop up operations to clear the
area of any remaining terrorists.
Then organised and administer this belt as a
buffer zone(sterile.. free of terrorist and humans).
The belt could be under UN supervision, but controlled
by Israeli armed forces.
Unless, UN or the EU countries can come up with
other workable options soon, and implement effective
measures to completely stop Hezbollah's guerrilla activities
along the borders...I cannot see how Israel can avoid
taking military actions to secure its border and to stop
Hezbollah's guerrilla activities from harming Israeli.
The liberation war has just started...a war to get rid of the
terrorists along the border.
"Komin" <veakrin [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1153130149.229626.221310 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> bald Eagle ,
>
> Hezbollahs are freedom fighters for the oppressed prisoners in
> Israeli prisons,
> which are full political prisoners of Arab origine .
>
>
>
> Bald eagle wrote:
>> <rst0wxyz [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153015211.135181.120750 [at] 35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Komin wrote:
>> >> What is wrong with giving weapons to the
>> >> Hezbollah ?
>> >
>> > Nothing, Hezbollah needs weapons for protection, too, against Israel
>> > aggression.
>>
>> For protection ....or for killing Jews.... and for chasing
>> the Jews out of Israel ?
>>
>> If you don't know, find out who are the Hezbollah
>> and the sworn objectives of their existence.
>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejadthe Great [message #228031 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 13:21 |
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Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew married Hagar and she was found to be
barren and then non Jewish Sarah the household maid servant became the
second wife of Abraham the Jew., then Sarah bore him offspring which
means that Arabs were born to a Jewish father and now this history of
6000 years old proof that you are a knucklehead and a bottleneck., This
also means that the Israelite exist before the Arabs today because what
we called "Arabs" today is the children of Sarah, the wife of Abraham
the Jew who hails from ancient Mesopotamia which is Iraq now., that is
why the Arabs is called the "Saracens" during the Crusade war and you
also forgotten that our Arabs today also belongs to the Semitic race
because they are from a Jewish father and after all and with the
foreknowledge of this indisputable religious and historical facts, you
are at odds with yourself because Arabs the Saracens exist only when
Abraham the Jew take Hagar to be his second wife and therefore her
children is the ancestors of Arabs today and this means that when the
Jews was released from their sojourns in Babylon, Mesopotamia., they
came into the land of the Philistine which is a race of its own during
that time, Arabs in "Palestine" aka Canaan does not exist yet, they only
exist after Sarah produced her first child for the first patriarch
Abraham the Jew, so the Israelite Jews is the one to exist before the
Arabs unless you refute the facts that Abraham ever exist or that he is
not a Jew. Dont ever think of counter refuting me, you will be at lost
for words of facts., Shalom/ Assalamualaikum.
Choong
Komin wrote:
> new archaeology findings[ university of Tel Aviv ] have proved
> that Israel existed in the Palestine area only from 7th century BC
> when Abraham moved out from the Babylon with is troops of Jews .
> Israel did not exist before the 7th century BC ,
>
> not earlier than this date .
>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228063 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 17:01 |
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"Choong Keat Yian" <sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote in message
news:44C0B8C2.5020405 [at] streamyx.com...
> Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew
Kah....kah...kah..
The Jews came from Isaac, you MORON,
not Abraham.
If Abraham was a Jew then Adam is a Jew?
LOL.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejadthe Great [message #228091 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 18:15 |
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Thats the key too moron, if your father is a gypsy so it makes you a
gypsy too, so all the gypsy in the world is descended from you., If
Isaac the ancient Israelite is what we call Jews, then the rest of the
lineage will be Jews too idiot so upstream wise the first grand father
is a Jew, thats Abraham idiot.
Choong
Observer wrote:
> "Choong Keat Yian" <sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote in message
> news:44C0B8C2.5020405 [at] streamyx.com...
>> Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew
>
>
> Kah....kah...kah..
> The Jews came from Isaac, you MORON,
> not Abraham.
> If Abraham was a Jew then Adam is a Jew?
> LOL.
>
>
>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228135 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 23:41 |
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Choong Keat Yian wrote:
> Thats the key too moron, if your father is a gypsy so it makes you a
> gypsy too, so all the gypsy in the world is descended from you., If
> Isaac the ancient Israelite is what we call Jews, then the rest of the
> lineage will be Jews too idiot so upstream wise the first grand father
> is a Jew, thats Abraham idiot.
>
> Choong
>
Your argument would make so much more sense if you care to punctuate.
CKSF
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228136 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 00:14 |
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"Choong Keat Yian" <sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote in message
news:44c0fdb9_2 [at] news.tm.net.my...
> Thats the key too moron, if your father is a gypsy so it makes you a
> gypsy too, so all the gypsy in the world is descended from you.,
Based on your MORONIC argument,
that would make everybody a jew....including
arabs....since you claim they descended
from the SAME father, Abraham...
See how MORONIC you sound?
LOL.
> If
> Isaac the ancient Israelite is what we call Jews, then the rest of the
> lineage will be Jews too idiot so upstream wise the first grand father
> is a Jew, thats Abraham idiot.
Then can you explain why the lineage for
jews actually comes from their MOTHER
and NOT their father?
Ohhh...do I hear your mama calling you
for your breasfeeding session?
LOL.
> Observer wrote:
> > "Choong Keat Yian" <sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote in message
> > news:44C0B8C2.5020405 [at] streamyx.com...
> >> Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew
> >
> >
> > Kah....kah...kah..
> > The Jews came from Isaac, you MORON,
> > not Abraham.
> > If Abraham was a Jew then Adam is a Jew?
> > LOL.
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228206 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 06:36 |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:21:38 +0800, Choong Keat Yian
<sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote:
>Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew married Hagar and she was found to be
>barren and then non Jewish Sarah the household maid servant became the
>second wife of Abraham the Jew.
[snip]
Is that the Muslim version? If you read Genesis, it's exactly the
reverse.
Michael
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228207 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 06:37 |
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 00:15:58 +0800, Choong Keat Yian
<sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote:
>Thats the key too moron, if your father is a gypsy so it makes you a
>gypsy too, so all the gypsy in the world is descended from you., If
>Isaac the ancient Israelite is what we call Jews, then the rest of the
>lineage will be Jews too idiot so upstream wise the first grand father
>is a Jew, thats Abraham idiot.
>
>Choong
>
>
>Observer wrote:
>> "Choong Keat Yian" <sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote in message
>> news:44C0B8C2.5020405 [at] streamyx.com...
>>> Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew
>>
>>
>> Kah....kah...kah..
>> The Jews came from Isaac, you MORON,
>> not Abraham.
>> If Abraham was a Jew then Adam is a Jew?
>> LOL.
According to the Bible, Abraham was the first Jew.
Michael
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228213 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 07:38 |
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Pan wrote:
|| On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:21:38 +0800, Choong Keat Yian
|| <sunrock [at] streamyx.com> wrote:
||
||| Kuman germs, Abraham the Jew married Hagar and she was found to be
||| barren and then non Jewish Sarah the household maid servant became
||| the second wife of Abraham the Jew.
|| [snip]
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|| Is that the Muslim version? If you read Genesis, it's exactly the
|| reverse.
||
Islam is a cult not a religion
There is no mention of Allah in the "old" or "New" testaments because Allah
is not God or a God Allah is a chunk of rock a statue which Moslems today
pray to
The Koran has simply taken the "old" and "New" testaments without which it
sounds like a temper tantrum
--
Petzl
Islam pagan horror cult of the Moon God
<http://home.iprimus.com.au/petzl/>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228231 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 07:59 |
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:38:50 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
[snip]
>There is no mention of Allah in the "old" or "New" testaments because Allah...
[snip]
....is an Arabic word.
Michael
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228236 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 08:23 |
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Pan wrote:
|| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:38:50 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
||
|| [snip]
||| There is no mention of Allah in the "old" or "New" testaments
||| because Allah...
|| [snip]
||
|| ...is an Arabic word.
||
|| Michael
||
|| If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the
|| NOTRASH. Please do not email me something which you also posted.
Allah is not even mentioned in Arabic translations of the Bible (Old or
New) Translated about the 9th century
--
Petzl
Islam pagan horror cult of the Moon God
<http://home.iprimus.com.au/petzl/>
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228244 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 08:45 |
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:23:02 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
>Pan wrote:
>|| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:38:50 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
>||
>|| [snip]
>||| There is no mention of Allah in the "old" or "New" testaments
>||| because Allah...
>|| [snip]
>||
>|| ...is an Arabic word.
>Allah is not even mentioned in Arabic translations of the Bible (Old or
>New) Translated about the 9th century
Now he is, right?
What was God called in 9th century Arabic translations of the Bible?
How, for example, were "Eil" and "Elohim" translated?
Michael
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| Re: Israel is a forgery & imposed entity on the region: Ahmadinejad the Great [message #228254 ] |
Sa, 22 Juli 2006 09:01 |
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Pan wrote:
|| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:23:02 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
||
||| Pan wrote:
||||| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:38:50 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
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||||| [snip]
|||||| There is no mention of Allah in the "old" or "New" testaments
|||||| because Allah...
||||| [snip]
|||||
||||| ...is an Arabic word.
||
||| Allah is not even mentioned in Arabic translations of the Bible
||| (Old or New) Translated about the 9th century
||
|| Now he is, right?
||
|| What was God called in 9th century Arabic translations of the Bible?
|| How, for example, were "Eil" and "Elohim" translated?
||
Elohim occurs only in Hebrew and in no other Semitic language
The word Elohim which is applied to Yahweh over 2,500 times in the Bible is
not used in the Koran and is NOT Allah the Moon God
--
Petzl
Islam pagan horror cult of the Moon God
<http://home.iprimus.com.au/petzl/>
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So, 23 Juli 2006 12:08 |
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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:01:14 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
>Pan wrote:
>|| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:23:02 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
>||
>||| Pan wrote:
>||||| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:38:50 +1000, "Petzl" </ [at] /.cn> wrote:
>|||||
>||||| [snip]
>|||||| There is no mention of Allah in the "old" or "New" testaments
>|||||| because Allah...
>||||| [snip]
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>||||| ...is an Arabic word.
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>||| Allah is not even mentioned in Arabic translations of the Bible
>||| (Old or New) Translated about the 9th century
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>|| Now he is, right?
>||
>|| What was God called in 9th century Arabic translations of the Bible?
>|| How, for example, were "Eil" and "Elohim" translated?
>||
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>Elohim occurs only in Hebrew and in no other Semitic language
>The word Elohim which is applied to Yahweh over 2,500 times in the Bible is
>not used in the Koran and is NOT Allah the Moon God
Non-responsive and unimpressive. Reread my question, or I will assume
you don't know what you're talking about.
Michael
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