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Culture & Politics » soc.culture.china » MAN'S INHUMANITY
| MAN'S INHUMANITY [message #224195] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 01:14 |
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Why do people treat each other like they do? Is it all
conditioning, or is there something in man that makes him willing to go
astray?
It is both.
First, there is something in man that leads him astray. And secondly,
there are people whose interest it is to lead human beings astray. Both
together create a false, fake human being. His heart longs for love, but his
conditioned mind prevents him from love.
This is the problem. The child is born with a heart that longs for
love, but he is also born with a brain that can be conditioned.
Society has to condition it against the heart, because the heart will
be always rebellious against the society, it will always follow its own way.
It cannot be made into a soldier. It can become a poet, it can become
a singer, it can become a dancer, but it cannot become a soldier.
It can suffer for its individuality, it can die for its individuality
and freedom, but it cannot be enslaved. That is the state of the heart. But
the mind.... The child comes with an empty brain, just a mechanism, which
you can arrange the way you want. It will learn the language you teach, it
will learn the religion you teach, it will learn the morality you teach. It
is simply a computer; you just feed it with information. And every society
takes care to make the mind stronger and stronger so that if there is any
conflict between heart and mind, the mind is going to win. But every victory
of the mind over the heart is a misery. It is a victory over your nature,
over your being - over you - by others. And they have cultivated your mind
to serve their purposes.
So the mind is empty, it is brain; you can put anything in it. And
with twenty-five years of education you can make it so strong that you
forget your heart; you will always remain miserable. The misery is that your
heart can only give you joy, can only give you happiness, can only make you
dance.
The mind can do arithmetic, but it cannot sing a song. Those are just
not the capacities of the mind. So you are torn apart between your nature,
which is your heart, and the society that is in your head. And certainly you
are born - everybody is born - with these two centers. That is the
difficulty.
And one center is empty. In a better society it will be used in
accordance with the heart, to serve the heart. Then it will be a great life,
full of rejoicings. But up to now we have lived in an ugly society, with
rotten ideas. They have used the mind. And that vulnerability is there -
mind can be used.
Now communists are using it in one way; fascists used it in Germany in
one way; all the other religions are using it in different ways. But that
vulnerability is with every individual: that you have a mind which you bring
empty. In fact it is a blessing of existence - but misused, exploited. It is
given to you empty so that you can make it perfectly subservient to your
heart, to your longings, to your potential. Nothing is wrong in it. But the
vested interests all over the world have found it a beautiful opportunity
for them - to use the mind against the heart. So you remain miserable and
they can exploit you in whatever ways they want.
That's why the whole world is miserable.
Everybody wants to be loved, everybody wants to love; but the mind is
such a barrier that it neither allows you to love, nor does it allow you to
be loved. In both cases the mind comes in the way and starts distorting
everything.
And even if by chance you meet a person you feel love for and the
person feels love for you, your minds are not going to settle. They have
been trained by different systems, different religions, different societies.
It is everybody's birthright to be happy, but unfortunately the
society, the people with whom we have been living, who have brought us into
the world, have not thought anything about it. They have just been
reproducing human beings like animals - even worse because at least animals
are not conditioned. This conditioning process should be completely changed.
The mind should be trained to be a servant of the heart.
Logic should serve love. And then life can become a festival of
lights.
Beyond Psychology
To read more on this subject, go to Library
Copyright © 2006 Osho International Foundation
http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
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| Re: MAN'S INHUMANITY [message #224774 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 11:08 |
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In evolutionary terms, we are very little different from Apes. Our
nervous systems and basic instincts are still primitive animalistic,
with a facade of civilization slspped on the surface.
dd wrote:
> Why do people treat each other like they do? Is it all
> conditioning, or is there something in man that makes him willing to go
> astray?
>
>
> It is both.
>
> First, there is something in man that leads him astray. And secondl=
y,
> there are people whose interest it is to lead human beings astray. Both
> together create a false, fake human being. His heart longs for love, but =
his
> conditioned mind prevents him from love.
>
> This is the problem. The child is born with a heart that longs for
> love, but he is also born with a brain that can be conditioned.
>
>
>
> Society has to condition it against the heart, because the heart wi=
ll
> be always rebellious against the society, it will always follow its own w=
ay.
>
> It cannot be made into a soldier. It can become a poet, it can beco=
me
> a singer, it can become a dancer, but it cannot become a soldier.
>
> It can suffer for its individuality, it can die for its individuali=
ty
> and freedom, but it cannot be enslaved. That is the state of the heart. B=
ut
> the mind.... The child comes with an empty brain, just a mechanism, which
> you can arrange the way you want. It will learn the language you teach, it
> will learn the religion you teach, it will learn the morality you teach. =
It
> is simply a computer; you just feed it with information. And every society
> takes care to make the mind stronger and stronger so that if there is any
> conflict between heart and mind, the mind is going to win. But every vict=
ory
> of the mind over the heart is a misery. It is a victory over your nature,
> over your being - over you - by others. And they have cultivated your mind
> to serve their purposes.
>
> So the mind is empty, it is brain; you can put anything in it. And
> with twenty-five years of education you can make it so strong that you
> forget your heart; you will always remain miserable. The misery is that y=
our
> heart can only give you joy, can only give you happiness, can only make y=
ou
> dance.
>
>
> The mind can do arithmetic, but it cannot sing a song. Those are ju=
st
> not the capacities of the mind. So you are torn apart between your nature,
> which is your heart, and the society that is in your head. And certainly =
you
> are born - everybody is born - with these two centers. That is the
> difficulty.
>
> And one center is empty. In a better society it will be used in
> accordance with the heart, to serve the heart. Then it will be a great li=
fe,
> full of rejoicings. But up to now we have lived in an ugly society, with
> rotten ideas. They have used the mind. And that vulnerability is there -
> mind can be used.
>
> Now communists are using it in one way; fascists used it in Germany=
in
> one way; all the other religions are using it in different ways. But that
> vulnerability is with every individual: that you have a mind which you br=
ing
> empty. In fact it is a blessing of existence - but misused, exploited. It=
is
> given to you empty so that you can make it perfectly subservient to your
> heart, to your longings, to your potential. Nothing is wrong in it. But t=
he
> vested interests all over the world have found it a beautiful opportunity
> for them - to use the mind against the heart. So you remain miserable and
> they can exploit you in whatever ways they want.
>
> That's why the whole world is miserable.
>
>
> Everybody wants to be loved, everybody wants to love; but the mind =
is
> such a barrier that it neither allows you to love, nor does it allow you =
to
> be loved. In both cases the mind comes in the way and starts distorting
> everything.
>
> And even if by chance you meet a person you feel love for and the
> person feels love for you, your minds are not going to settle. They have
> been trained by different systems, different religions, different societi=
es.
>
> It is everybody's birthright to be happy, but unfortunately the
> society, the people with whom we have been living, who have brought us in=
to
> the world, have not thought anything about it. They have just been
> reproducing human beings like animals - even worse because at least anima=
ls
> are not conditioned. This conditioning process should be completely chang=
ed.
> The mind should be trained to be a servant of the heart.
>
>
> Logic should serve love. And then life can become a festival of
> lights.
>
>
> Beyond Psychology
>
> To read more on this subject, go to Library
>
>
> Copyright =A9 2006 Osho International Foundation
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=3DMagazine&Language=3D English
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| Re: MAN'S INHUMANITY [message #224799 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 12:33 |
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Why do people treat each other like they do?
Good question. Ask Mr. Lee Boon Yang who put Mr. Brown down...;);)
"dd" <dd [at] d.com> wrote in message news:44b6011d$2 [at] news.starhub.net.sg...
> Why do people treat each other like they do? Is it all
> conditioning, or is there something in man that makes him willing to go
> astray?
>
>
> It is both.
>
> First, there is something in man that leads him astray. And secondly,
> there are people whose interest it is to lead human beings astray. Both
> together create a false, fake human being. His heart longs for love, but his
> conditioned mind prevents him from love.
>
> This is the problem. The child is born with a heart that longs for
> love, but he is also born with a brain that can be conditioned.
>
>
>
> Society has to condition it against the heart, because the heart will
> be always rebellious against the society, it will always follow its own way.
>
> It cannot be made into a soldier. It can become a poet, it can become
> a singer, it can become a dancer, but it cannot become a soldier.
>
> It can suffer for its individuality, it can die for its individuality
> and freedom, but it cannot be enslaved. That is the state of the heart. But
> the mind.... The child comes with an empty brain, just a mechanism, which
> you can arrange the way you want. It will learn the language you teach, it
> will learn the religion you teach, it will learn the morality you teach. It
> is simply a computer; you just feed it with information. And every society
> takes care to make the mind stronger and stronger so that if there is any
> conflict between heart and mind, the mind is going to win. But every victory
> of the mind over the heart is a misery. It is a victory over your nature,
> over your being - over you - by others. And they have cultivated your mind
> to serve their purposes.
>
> So the mind is empty, it is brain; you can put anything in it. And
> with twenty-five years of education you can make it so strong that you
> forget your heart; you will always remain miserable. The misery is that your
> heart can only give you joy, can only give you happiness, can only make you
> dance.
>
>
> The mind can do arithmetic, but it cannot sing a song. Those are just
> not the capacities of the mind. So you are torn apart between your nature,
> which is your heart, and the society that is in your head. And certainly you
> are born - everybody is born - with these two centers. That is the
> difficulty.
>
> And one center is empty. In a better society it will be used in
> accordance with the heart, to serve the heart. Then it will be a great life,
> full of rejoicings. But up to now we have lived in an ugly society, with
> rotten ideas. They have used the mind. And that vulnerability is there -
> mind can be used.
>
> Now communists are using it in one way; fascists used it in Germany in
> one way; all the other religions are using it in different ways. But that
> vulnerability is with every individual: that you have a mind which you bring
> empty. In fact it is a blessing of existence - but misused, exploited. It is
> given to you empty so that you can make it perfectly subservient to your
> heart, to your longings, to your potential. Nothing is wrong in it. But the
> vested interests all over the world have found it a beautiful opportunity
> for them - to use the mind against the heart. So you remain miserable and
> they can exploit you in whatever ways they want.
>
> That's why the whole world is miserable.
>
>
> Everybody wants to be loved, everybody wants to love; but the mind is
> such a barrier that it neither allows you to love, nor does it allow you to
> be loved. In both cases the mind comes in the way and starts distorting
> everything.
>
> And even if by chance you meet a person you feel love for and the
> person feels love for you, your minds are not going to settle. They have
> been trained by different systems, different religions, different societies.
>
> It is everybody's birthright to be happy, but unfortunately the
> society, the people with whom we have been living, who have brought us into
> the world, have not thought anything about it. They have just been
> reproducing human beings like animals - even worse because at least animals
> are not conditioned. This conditioning process should be completely changed.
> The mind should be trained to be a servant of the heart.
>
>
> Logic should serve love. And then life can become a festival of
> lights.
>
>
> Beyond Psychology
>
> To read more on this subject, go to Library
>
>
> Copyright © 2006 Osho International Foundation
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
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| Re: MAN'S INHUMANITY [message #224800 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 12:56 |
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mbl* wrote:
> In evolutionary terms, we are very little different from Apes. Our
> nervous systems and basic instincts are still primitive animalistic,
> with a facade of civilization slspped on the surface.
The opposite.
It is our humanity which make us inhumane.
>
>
> dd wrote:
>
> > Why do people treat each other like they do? Is it all
> > conditioning, or is there something in man that makes him willing to go
> > astray?
> >
> >
> > It is both.
> >
> > First, there is something in man that leads him astray. And secon=
dly,
> > there are people whose interest it is to lead human beings astray. Both
> > together create a false, fake human being. His heart longs for love, bu=
t his
> > conditioned mind prevents him from love.
> >
> > This is the problem. The child is born with a heart that longs for
> > love, but he is also born with a brain that can be conditioned.
> >
> >
> >
> > Society has to condition it against the heart, because the heart =
will
> > be always rebellious against the society, it will always follow its own=
way.
> >
> > It cannot be made into a soldier. It can become a poet, it can be=
come
> > a singer, it can become a dancer, but it cannot become a soldier.
> >
> > It can suffer for its individuality, it can die for its individua=
lity
> > and freedom, but it cannot be enslaved. That is the state of the heart.=
But
> > the mind.... The child comes with an empty brain, just a mechanism, whi=
ch
> > you can arrange the way you want. It will learn the language you teach,=
it
> > will learn the religion you teach, it will learn the morality you teach=
.. It
> > is simply a computer; you just feed it with information. And every soci=
ety
> > takes care to make the mind stronger and stronger so that if there is a=
ny
> > conflict between heart and mind, the mind is going to win. But every vi=
ctory
> > of the mind over the heart is a misery. It is a victory over your natur=
e,
> > over your being - over you - by others. And they have cultivated your m=
ind
> > to serve their purposes.
> >
> > So the mind is empty, it is brain; you can put anything in it. And
> > with twenty-five years of education you can make it so strong that you
> > forget your heart; you will always remain miserable. The misery is that=
your
> > heart can only give you joy, can only give you happiness, can only make=
you
> > dance.
> >
> >
> > The mind can do arithmetic, but it cannot sing a song. Those are =
just
> > not the capacities of the mind. So you are torn apart between your natu=
re,
> > which is your heart, and the society that is in your head. And certainl=
y you
> > are born - everybody is born - with these two centers. That is the
> > difficulty.
> >
> > And one center is empty. In a better society it will be used in
> > accordance with the heart, to serve the heart. Then it will be a great =
life,
> > full of rejoicings. But up to now we have lived in an ugly society, with
> > rotten ideas. They have used the mind. And that vulnerability is there -
> > mind can be used.
> >
> > Now communists are using it in one way; fascists used it in Germa=
ny in
> > one way; all the other religions are using it in different ways. But th=
at
> > vulnerability is with every individual: that you have a mind which you =
bring
> > empty. In fact it is a blessing of existence - but misused, exploited. =
It is
> > given to you empty so that you can make it perfectly subservient to your
> > heart, to your longings, to your potential. Nothing is wrong in it. But=
the
> > vested interests all over the world have found it a beautiful opportuni=
ty
> > for them - to use the mind against the heart. So you remain miserable a=
nd
> > they can exploit you in whatever ways they want.
> >
> > That's why the whole world is miserable.
> >
> >
> > Everybody wants to be loved, everybody wants to love; but the min=
d is
> > such a barrier that it neither allows you to love, nor does it allow yo=
u to
> > be loved. In both cases the mind comes in the way and starts distorting
> > everything.
> >
> > And even if by chance you meet a person you feel love for and the
> > person feels love for you, your minds are not going to settle. They have
> > been trained by different systems, different religions, different socie=
ties.
> >
> > It is everybody's birthright to be happy, but unfortunately the
> > society, the people with whom we have been living, who have brought us =
into
> > the world, have not thought anything about it. They have just been
> > reproducing human beings like animals - even worse because at least ani=
mals
> > are not conditioned. This conditioning process should be completely cha=
nged.
> > The mind should be trained to be a servant of the heart.
> >
> >
> > Logic should serve love. And then life can become a festival of
> > lights.
> >
> >
> > Beyond Psychology
> >
> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
> >
> >
> > Copyright =A9 2006 Osho International Foundation
> > http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=3DMagazine&Language=3D English
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| Re: MAN'S INHUMANITY [message #224841 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 14:55 |
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is it why you can only yelled as the apes ????
but I see other netters, except communists' dogs, are not !!!
mbl* wrote:
> In evolutionary terms, we are very little different from Apes. Our
> nervous systems and basic instincts are still primitive animalistic,
> with a facade of civilization slspped on the surface.
>
>
> dd wrote:
>
>
>>Why do people treat each other like they do? Is it all
>>conditioning, or is there something in man that makes him willing to go
>>astray?
>>
>>
>> It is both.
>>
>> First, there is something in man that leads him astray. And secondly,
>>there are people whose interest it is to lead human beings astray. Both
>>together create a false, fake human being. His heart longs for love, but his
>>conditioned mind prevents him from love.
>>
>> This is the problem. The child is born with a heart that longs for
>>love, but he is also born with a brain that can be conditioned.
>>
>>
>>
>> Society has to condition it against the heart, because the heart will
>>be always rebellious against the society, it will always follow its own way.
>>
>> It cannot be made into a soldier. It can become a poet, it can become
>>a singer, it can become a dancer, but it cannot become a soldier.
>>
>> It can suffer for its individuality, it can die for its individuality
>>and freedom, but it cannot be enslaved. That is the state of the heart. But
>>the mind.... The child comes with an empty brain, just a mechanism, which
>>you can arrange the way you want. It will learn the language you teach, it
>>will learn the religion you teach, it will learn the morality you teach. It
>>is simply a computer; you just feed it with information. And every society
>>takes care to make the mind stronger and stronger so that if there is any
>>conflict between heart and mind, the mind is going to win. But every victory
>>of the mind over the heart is a misery. It is a victory over your nature,
>>over your being - over you - by others. And they have cultivated your mind
>>to serve their purposes.
>>
>> So the mind is empty, it is brain; you can put anything in it. And
>>with twenty-five years of education you can make it so strong that you
>>forget your heart; you will always remain miserable. The misery is that your
>>heart can only give you joy, can only give you happiness, can only make you
>>dance.
>>
>>
>> The mind can do arithmetic, but it cannot sing a song. Those are just
>>not the capacities of the mind. So you are torn apart between your nature,
>>which is your heart, and the society that is in your head. And certainly you
>>are born - everybody is born - with these two centers. That is the
>>difficulty.
>>
>> And one center is empty. In a better society it will be used in
>>accordance with the heart, to serve the heart. Then it will be a great life,
>>full of rejoicings. But up to now we have lived in an ugly society, with
>>rotten ideas. They have used the mind. And that vulnerability is there -
>>mind can be used.
>>
>> Now communists are using it in one way; fascists used it in Germany in
>>one way; all the other religions are using it in different ways. But that
>>vulnerability is with every individual: that you have a mind which you bring
>>empty. In fact it is a blessing of existence - but misused, exploited. It is
>>given to you empty so that you can make it perfectly subservient to your
>>heart, to your longings, to your potential. Nothing is wrong in it. But the
>>vested interests all over the world have found it a beautiful opportunity
>>for them - to use the mind against the heart. So you remain miserable and
>>they can exploit you in whatever ways they want.
>>
>> That's why the whole world is miserable.
>>
>>
>> Everybody wants to be loved, everybody wants to love; but the mind is
>>such a barrier that it neither allows you to love, nor does it allow you to
>>be loved. In both cases the mind comes in the way and starts distorting
>>everything.
>>
>> And even if by chance you meet a person you feel love for and the
>>person feels love for you, your minds are not going to settle. They have
>>been trained by different systems, different religions, different societies.
>>
>> It is everybody's birthright to be happy, but unfortunately the
>>society, the people with whom we have been living, who have brought us into
>>the world, have not thought anything about it. They have just been
>>reproducing human beings like animals - even worse because at least animals
>>are not conditioned. This conditioning process should be completely changed.
>>The mind should be trained to be a servant of the heart.
>>
>>
>> Logic should serve love. And then life can become a festival of
>>lights.
>>
>>
>> Beyond Psychology
>>
>> To read more on this subject, go to Library
>>
>>
>> Copyright © 2006 Osho International Foundation
>> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
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| Re: MAN'S INHUMANITY [message #224847 ] |
Do, 13 Juli 2006 14:56 |
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your master makes you and mainlanders inhumane only !!!
your inhumane view distorted the democracy world !!!!
ltlee1 wrote:
> mbl* wrote:
>
>>In evolutionary terms, we are very little different from Apes. Our
>>nervous systems and basic instincts are still primitive animalistic,
>>with a facade of civilization slspped on the surface.
>
>
> The opposite.
> It is our humanity which make us inhumane.
>
>>
>>dd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why do people treat each other like they do? Is it all
>>>conditioning, or is there something in man that makes him willing to go
>>>astray?
>>>
>>>
>>> It is both.
>>>
>>> First, there is something in man that leads him astray. And secondly,
>>>there are people whose interest it is to lead human beings astray. Both
>>>together create a false, fake human being. His heart longs for love, but his
>>>conditioned mind prevents him from love.
>>>
>>> This is the problem. The child is born with a heart that longs for
>>>love, but he is also born with a brain that can be conditioned.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Society has to condition it against the heart, because the heart will
>>>be always rebellious against the society, it will always follow its own way.
>>>
>>> It cannot be made into a soldier. It can become a poet, it can become
>>>a singer, it can become a dancer, but it cannot become a soldier.
>>>
>>> It can suffer for its individuality, it can die for its individuality
>>>and freedom, but it cannot be enslaved. That is the state of the heart. But
>>>the mind.... The child comes with an empty brain, just a mechanism, which
>>>you can arrange the way you want. It will learn the language you teach, it
>>>will learn the religion you teach, it will learn the morality you teach. It
>>>is simply a computer; you just feed it with information. And every society
>>>takes care to make the mind stronger and stronger so that if there is any
>>>conflict between heart and mind, the mind is going to win. But every victory
>>>of the mind over the heart is a misery. It is a victory over your nature,
>>>over your being - over you - by others. And they have cultivated your mind
>>>to serve their purposes.
>>>
>>> So the mind is empty, it is brain; you can put anything in it. And
>>>with twenty-five years of education you can make it so strong that you
>>>forget your heart; you will always remain miserable. The misery is that your
>>>heart can only give you joy, can only give you happiness, can only make you
>>>dance.
>>>
>>>
>>> The mind can do arithmetic, but it cannot sing a song. Those are just
>>>not the capacities of the mind. So you are torn apart between your nature,
>>>which is your heart, and the society that is in your head. And certainly you
>>>are born - everybody is born - with these two centers. That is the
>>>difficulty.
>>>
>>> And one center is empty. In a better society it will be used in
>>>accordance with the heart, to serve the heart. Then it will be a great life,
>>>full of rejoicings. But up to now we have lived in an ugly society, with
>>>rotten ideas. They have used the mind. And that vulnerability is there -
>>>mind can be used.
>>>
>>> Now communists are using it in one way; fascists used it in Germany in
>>>one way; all the other religions are using it in different ways. But that
>>>vulnerability is with every individual: that you have a mind which you bring
>>>empty. In fact it is a blessing of existence - but misused, exploited. It is
>>>given to you empty so that you can make it perfectly subservient to your
>>>heart, to your longings, to your potential. Nothing is wrong in it. But the
>>>vested interests all over the world have found it a beautiful opportunity
>>>for them - to use the mind against the heart. So you remain miserable and
>>>they can exploit you in whatever ways they want.
>>>
>>> That's why the whole world is miserable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everybody wants to be loved, everybody wants to love; but the mind is
>>>such a barrier that it neither allows you to love, nor does it allow you to
>>>be loved. In both cases the mind comes in the way and starts distorting
>>>everything.
>>>
>>> And even if by chance you meet a person you feel love for and the
>>>person feels love for you, your minds are not going to settle. They have
>>>been trained by different systems, different religions, different societies.
>>>
>>> It is everybody's birthright to be happy, but unfortunately the
>>>society, the people with whom we have been living, who have brought us into
>>>the world, have not thought anything about it. They have just been
>>>reproducing human beings like animals - even worse because at least animals
>>>are not conditioned. This conditioning process should be completely changed.
>>>The mind should be trained to be a servant of the heart.
>>>
>>>
>>> Logic should serve love. And then life can become a festival of
>>>lights.
>>>
>>>
>>> Beyond Psychology
>>>
>>> To read more on this subject, go to Library
>>>
>>>
>>> Copyright © 2006 Osho International Foundation
>>> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
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