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Culture & Politics » soc.culture.china » One Religiousness -- a World of Individuals
| One Religiousness -- a World of Individuals [message #225068] |
Sa, 15 Juli 2006 01:38 |
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AFTER NATIONS, the second great disease is religions, because they have
been fighting, they have been killing, and for reasons in which nobody is
interested.
Christianity was the first religion to create in people's minds the
idea that a war too can be religious. And Mohammedanism and other religions
have followed, slaughtering each other in the name of God.
I say, war as such is irreligious. There cannot be anything like a
crusade, a jihad, a holy war! If you call war "holy" then what is left to be
called unholy?
Who is interested in God except the priests?
I have never come across a man who is really interested in God. If you
offer him five dollars in one hand and God in another, he will take the five
dollars and he will say: "God is eternal, we will see later on. For the
moment five dollars will be helpful."
But the priests are interested, because God is their business, and
they want their business to spread.
The religions have destroyed man's integrity.
They have broken him -- not only in parts but into opposing parts, and
these parts are continuously fighting with each other. In this way they have
made humanity schizophrenic; they have given everybody a split personality.
It has been done in a very clever and cunning way by condemning your body,
your sex -- by turning you against your own nature.
All the religions are against everything that man can enjoy. It is
their vested interest to keep man miserable, to destroy every possibility of
his finding peace, joy and fulfillment -- to find paradise here, now.
Your misery is absolutely needed for the "other world" to exist. For
example, if your sex is really fulfilled, you don't need God, because your
life is fulfilled. But if your sex is condemned, repressed, destroyed, if
you are made to feel guilty about it -- then God can go on living forever.
God derives his energy from your suicide!
The religions have taught you that you are not part of this world; you
are here to be punished, to repent your "original sin." They had to do it in
order to create God, who is a poetic fiction; and to create heaven, which is
an extension of human greed; and to make people afraid of hell, which is to
create a great fear in the very center of the human soul. Of course those
fictions are very profitable to the priests.
No religion accepts the simple, natural and factual phenomenon that
man is a unity -- body and consciousness together -- and this world is not
separate from man. Man is rooted in this world just as trees are rooted. And
the roots are as essential a part of the tree as the flowers. In fact,
without roots there wouldn't be any tree!
This planet, this earth, is our mother and we are all part of one life
force -- part of one oceanic existence. And because we are one deep inside
at our center, the possibility of love exists.
I am against all organized religions, without any exception, for the
simple reason that truth cannot be organized, love cannot be organized -- it
is not politics.
All these religions have made you parts of crowds, dependent on the
crowds. They have taken away your individuality, your freedom, your
intelligence. In its place they have given you bogus beliefs, which mean
nothing.
Belief is just a strategy to deceive yourself.
You don't want to go on the path of seeking, searching, discovering.
It is arduous, because you will have to drop many superstitions, and you
will have to deprogram yourself from many conditionings from the past which
are preventing you from knowing the truth, from knowing yourself. No belief
can help, and all religions are based on belief -- that's why they are
called "faiths."
Truth is a search, not a faith. It is an inquiry, not a belief. It is
a question, a quest. To avoid this search you easily become gullible, you
easily become victims of anybody who is ready to exploit you.
And naturally it feels cozy in a crowd. There are six hundred million
Catholics. It feels cozy. And it feels like six hundred million people
cannot be wrong. You may be wrong, but six hundred million people cannot be
wrong -- but that's what every one of them is thinking.
Four hundred million Hindus feel that they are right, and the same is
true about Mohammedans, Buddhists and other religions.
A religion should be not a dead organization, but a kind of
religiousness, a loving heart, a friendliness towards the whole. For these,
no holy scriptures are needed.
An authentic religiousness needs no prophets, no saviors, no churches,
no popes, no priests -- because religiousness is the flowering of your
heart.
If religiousness spreads all over the world the religions will fade
away. It will be a tremendous blessing to humanity when man is simply man,
neither Christian, nor Mohammedan, nor Hindu.
Religiousness is an individual affair. It is a message of love from
you to the whole cosmos. Only then will there be a peace that passeth all
misunderstanding...otherwise these religions have been parasites, exploiting
people, enslaving people, forcing people to believe -- and all beliefs are
against intelligence.
I would love the whole world to be religious -- as an independent
search out of each individual's freedom.
So first, the nations should go if the world is to survive. There is
no need of India and England and Germany.
Second, the religions should go.
One humanity is enough. And one religiousness is enough. Meditation,
truth, love, authenticity, sincerity -- which do not need any name...Hindu,
Christian, Mohammedan. Just one religiousness -- a quality, not something
organized.
The moment organization comes in there is going to be violence,
because there will be other organizations in conflict. We need a world of
individuals without any organizations. Yes, there can be gatherings of
people who have similar feelings, similar joys, rejoicings, but there should
not be any organizations, hierarchies, bureaucracies.
First nations, second religions; and third, a science completely
devoted to a better life, to more life, to better intelligence, to more
creativity -- not to create more war, not to be destructive. If these three
things are possible, the whole humanity can be saved from being destroyed by
its own leaders -- religious, political, social.
Copyright © 2006 Osho International Foundation
http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
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| Re: One Religiousness -- a World of Individuals [message #225172 ] |
Fr, 14 Juli 2006 18:30 |
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dd wrote:
> AFTER NATIONS, the second great disease is religions, because they have
> been fighting, they have been killing, and for reasons in which nobody is
> interested.
>
> Christianity was the first religion to create in people's minds the
> idea that a war too can be religious. And Mohammedanism and other religio=
ns
> have followed, slaughtering each other in the name of God.
>
> I say, war as such is irreligious. There cannot be anything like a
> crusade, a jihad, a holy war! If you call war "holy" then what is left to=
be
> called unholy?
>
> Who is interested in God except the priests?
>
> I have never come across a man who is really interested in God. If =
you
> offer him five dollars in one hand and God in another, he will take the f=
ive
> dollars and he will say: "God is eternal, we will see later on. For the
> moment five dollars will be helpful."
>
> But the priests are interested, because God is their business, and
> they want their business to spread.
>
> The religions have destroyed man's integrity.
>
> They have broken him -- not only in parts but into opposing parts, =
and
> these parts are continuously fighting with each other. In this way they h=
ave
> made humanity schizophrenic; they have given everybody a split personalit=
y=2E
> It has been done in a very clever and cunning way by condemning your body,
> your sex -- by turning you against your own nature.
>
> All the religions are against everything that man can enjoy. It is
> their vested interest to keep man miserable, to destroy every possibility=
of
> his finding peace, joy and fulfillment -- to find paradise here, now.
>
> Your misery is absolutely needed for the "other world" to exist. For
> example, if your sex is really fulfilled, you don't need God, because your
> life is fulfilled. But if your sex is condemned, repressed, destroyed, if
> you are made to feel guilty about it -- then God can go on living forever.
> God derives his energy from your suicide!
>
> The religions have taught you that you are not part of this world; =
you
> are here to be punished, to repent your "original sin." They had to do it=
in
> order to create God, who is a poetic fiction; and to create heaven, which=
is
> an extension of human greed; and to make people afraid of hell, which is =
to
> create a great fear in the very center of the human soul. Of course those
> fictions are very profitable to the priests.
>
> No religion accepts the simple, natural and factual phenomenon that
> man is a unity -- body and consciousness together -- and this world is not
> separate from man. Man is rooted in this world just as trees are rooted. =
And
> the roots are as essential a part of the tree as the flowers. In fact,
> without roots there wouldn't be any tree!
>
> This planet, this earth, is our mother and we are all part of one l=
ife
> force -- part of one oceanic existence. And because we are one deep inside
> at our center, the possibility of love exists.
>
> I am against all organized religions, without any exception, for the
> simple reason that truth cannot be organized, love cannot be organized --=
it
> is not politics.
>
> All these religions have made you parts of crowds, dependent on the
> crowds. They have taken away your individuality, your freedom, your
> intelligence. In its place they have given you bogus beliefs, which mean
> nothing.
>
> Belief is just a strategy to deceive yourself.
>
> You don't want to go on the path of seeking, searching, discovering.
> It is arduous, because you will have to drop many superstitions, and you
> will have to deprogram yourself from many conditionings from the past whi=
ch
> are preventing you from knowing the truth, from knowing yourself. No beli=
ef
> can help, and all religions are based on belief -- that's why they are
> called "faiths."
>
> Truth is a search, not a faith. It is an inquiry, not a belief. It =
is
> a question, a quest. To avoid this search you easily become gullible, you
> easily become victims of anybody who is ready to exploit you.
>
> And naturally it feels cozy in a crowd. There are six hundred milli=
on
> Catholics. It feels cozy. And it feels like six hundred million people
> cannot be wrong. You may be wrong, but six hundred million people cannot =
be
> wrong -- but that's what every one of them is thinking.
>
> Four hundred million Hindus feel that they are right, and the same =
is
> true about Mohammedans, Buddhists and other religions.
>
> A religion should be not a dead organization, but a kind of
> religiousness, a loving heart, a friendliness towards the whole. For thes=
e,
> no holy scriptures are needed.
>
> An authentic religiousness needs no prophets, no saviors, no church=
es,
> no popes, no priests -- because religiousness is the flowering of your
> heart.
>
> If religiousness spreads all over the world the religions will fade
> away. It will be a tremendous blessing to humanity when man is simply man,
> neither Christian, nor Mohammedan, nor Hindu.
>
> Religiousness is an individual affair. It is a message of love from
> you to the whole cosmos. Only then will there be a peace that passeth all
> misunderstanding...otherwise these religions have been parasites, exploit=
ing
> people, enslaving people, forcing people to believe -- and all beliefs are
> against intelligence.
>
> I would love the whole world to be religious -- as an independent
> search out of each individual's freedom.
>
> So first, the nations should go if the world is to survive. There is
> no need of India and England and Germany.
>
> Second, the religions should go.
>
> One humanity is enough. And one religiousness is enough. Meditation,
> truth, love, authenticity, sincerity -- which do not need any name...Hind=
u,
> Christian, Mohammedan. Just one religiousness -- a quality, not something
> organized.
>
> The moment organization comes in there is going to be violence,
> because there will be other organizations in conflict. We need a world of
> individuals without any organizations. Yes, there can be gatherings of
> people who have similar feelings, similar joys, rejoicings, but there sho=
uld
> not be any organizations, hierarchies, bureaucracies.
>
> First nations, second religions; and third, a science completely
> devoted to a better life, to more life, to better intelligence, to more
> creativity -- not to create more war, not to be destructive. If these thr=
ee
> things are possible, the whole humanity can be saved from being destroyed=
by
> its own leaders -- religious, political, social.
>
>
>
>
> Copyright =A9 2006 Osho International Foundation
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=3DMagazine&Language=3D English
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| Re: One Religiousness -- a World of Individuals [message #228470 ] |
So, 23 Juli 2006 11:17 |
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Nothing you say will be accepted because those 5 times do gooders will
not see everything other than what they had been taught since they are
born into this world, strife will go on.
Choong
dd wrote:
> AFTER NATIONS, the second great disease is religions, because they have
> been fighting, they have been killing, and for reasons in which nobody is
> interested.
>
> Christianity was the first religion to create in people's minds the
> idea that a war too can be religious. And Mohammedanism and other religions
> have followed, slaughtering each other in the name of God.
>
> I say, war as such is irreligious. There cannot be anything like a
> crusade, a jihad, a holy war! If you call war "holy" then what is left to be
> called unholy?
>
> Who is interested in God except the priests?
>
> I have never come across a man who is really interested in God. If you
> offer him five dollars in one hand and God in another, he will take the five
> dollars and he will say: "God is eternal, we will see later on. For the
> moment five dollars will be helpful."
>
> But the priests are interested, because God is their business, and
> they want their business to spread.
>
> The religions have destroyed man's integrity.
>
> They have broken him -- not only in parts but into opposing parts, and
> these parts are continuously fighting with each other. In this way they have
> made humanity schizophrenic; they have given everybody a split personality.
> It has been done in a very clever and cunning way by condemning your body,
> your sex -- by turning you against your own nature.
>
> All the religions are against everything that man can enjoy. It is
> their vested interest to keep man miserable, to destroy every possibility of
> his finding peace, joy and fulfillment -- to find paradise here, now.
>
> Your misery is absolutely needed for the "other world" to exist. For
> example, if your sex is really fulfilled, you don't need God, because your
> life is fulfilled. But if your sex is condemned, repressed, destroyed, if
> you are made to feel guilty about it -- then God can go on living forever.
> God derives his energy from your suicide!
>
> The religions have taught you that you are not part of this world; you
> are here to be punished, to repent your "original sin." They had to do it in
> order to create God, who is a poetic fiction; and to create heaven, which is
> an extension of human greed; and to make people afraid of hell, which is to
> create a great fear in the very center of the human soul. Of course those
> fictions are very profitable to the priests.
>
> No religion accepts the simple, natural and factual phenomenon that
> man is a unity -- body and consciousness together -- and this world is not
> separate from man. Man is rooted in this world just as trees are rooted. And
> the roots are as essential a part of the tree as the flowers. In fact,
> without roots there wouldn't be any tree!
>
> This planet, this earth, is our mother and we are all part of one life
> force -- part of one oceanic existence. And because we are one deep inside
> at our center, the possibility of love exists.
>
> I am against all organized religions, without any exception, for the
> simple reason that truth cannot be organized, love cannot be organized -- it
> is not politics.
>
> All these religions have made you parts of crowds, dependent on the
> crowds. They have taken away your individuality, your freedom, your
> intelligence. In its place they have given you bogus beliefs, which mean
> nothing.
>
> Belief is just a strategy to deceive yourself.
>
> You don't want to go on the path of seeking, searching, discovering.
> It is arduous, because you will have to drop many superstitions, and you
> will have to deprogram yourself from many conditionings from the past which
> are preventing you from knowing the truth, from knowing yourself. No belief
> can help, and all religions are based on belief -- that's why they are
> called "faiths."
>
> Truth is a search, not a faith. It is an inquiry, not a belief. It is
> a question, a quest. To avoid this search you easily become gullible, you
> easily become victims of anybody who is ready to exploit you.
>
> And naturally it feels cozy in a crowd. There are six hundred million
> Catholics. It feels cozy. And it feels like six hundred million people
> cannot be wrong. You may be wrong, but six hundred million people cannot be
> wrong -- but that's what every one of them is thinking.
>
> Four hundred million Hindus feel that they are right, and the same is
> true about Mohammedans, Buddhists and other religions.
>
> A religion should be not a dead organization, but a kind of
> religiousness, a loving heart, a friendliness towards the whole. For these,
> no holy scriptures are needed.
>
> An authentic religiousness needs no prophets, no saviors, no churches,
> no popes, no priests -- because religiousness is the flowering of your
> heart.
>
> If religiousness spreads all over the world the religions will fade
> away. It will be a tremendous blessing to humanity when man is simply man,
> neither Christian, nor Mohammedan, nor Hindu.
>
> Religiousness is an individual affair. It is a message of love from
> you to the whole cosmos. Only then will there be a peace that passeth all
> misunderstanding...otherwise these religions have been parasites, exploiting
> people, enslaving people, forcing people to believe -- and all beliefs are
> against intelligence.
>
> I would love the whole world to be religious -- as an independent
> search out of each individual's freedom.
>
> So first, the nations should go if the world is to survive. There is
> no need of India and England and Germany.
>
> Second, the religions should go.
>
> One humanity is enough. And one religiousness is enough. Meditation,
> truth, love, authenticity, sincerity -- which do not need any name...Hindu,
> Christian, Mohammedan. Just one religiousness -- a quality, not something
> organized.
>
> The moment organization comes in there is going to be violence,
> because there will be other organizations in conflict. We need a world of
> individuals without any organizations. Yes, there can be gatherings of
> people who have similar feelings, similar joys, rejoicings, but there should
> not be any organizations, hierarchies, bureaucracies.
>
> First nations, second religions; and third, a science completely
> devoted to a better life, to more life, to better intelligence, to more
> creativity -- not to create more war, not to be destructive. If these three
> things are possible, the whole humanity can be saved from being destroyed by
> its own leaders -- religious, political, social.
>
>
>
>
> Copyright © 2006 Osho International Foundation
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
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