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Culture & Politics » talk.politics.china » how eating meat causes wars and conflicts
| how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #226749] |
Do, 20 Juli 2006 23:57 |
|
The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
yourself?
But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
fundamental right of life.
When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
certain
animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
The
meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
being
almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
hard,
it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
which
can be easily avoided.
Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
> >
> > Body Dharma - on health
> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
> was
> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
> > identical in man and beast.
> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
poisons
> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
> apetit!
> >
> > VEGETARIANISM
> >
> >
> >
> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
for
> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
non-vegetarian.
> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
vegetarians.
> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
> >
> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
> the
> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
> digested
> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
> digestion
> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
longest
> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
> and
> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
> >
> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
a
> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
> meditation
> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
be
> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
> >
> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
> If
> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
and
> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
a
> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
all
> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
> body
> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
> has
> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
in
> > your body.
> >
> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
> specific
> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
when
> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
lower
> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
> and
> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
> >
> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
> more
> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
satiated.
> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
food.
> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
> controller.
> >
> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
> the
> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
> specific
> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
> that
> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
food
> is
> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
master,
> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
> be
> > confused.
> >
> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
be
> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
eat,
> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
> the
> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
smell,
> is
> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
or
> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
> >
> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
> buffaloes
> > to eat ice cream. Try!
> >
> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
needs.
> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
> the
> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
> will
> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
> >
> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
a
> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
> the
> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
> > kingdom.
> >
> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
the
> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
> behave
> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
> much
> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
You
> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
you
> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
> >
> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
of
> a
> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
> they
> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
> angry.
> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
> feeling
> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
> >
> >
> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
> >
> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
> >
> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
> >
> >
> >
http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
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| Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #226752 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 00:57 |
|
That's right, some of us behave like horny goats because they eat too
much goat meat.
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| And the consequences of modern wars Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #226764 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 03:01 |
|
In article <44bf2909 [at] news.starhub.net.sg>, dd <dd [at] d.com> wrote:
>The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
>is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
>killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
>for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
>forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
>cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
>about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
>yourself?
Very reasonable. The lack of sensitivity toward others' lives shows a
lack of introspection. It shows the individual as unthinking. How
can an unthinking person be our chosen leader? Good question!
Let's take a look at George Bush, our mysteriously chosen president.
He advocates pre-emptive strikes against other nations in the name of
solving international problems and achieving freedom for others.
He advocates unilateralism and shows no sign of abatement of extremist
desires. In fact, he is working to extend John Bolton's un-approved
tenure at the UN, a boorish representative his colleagues have little
respect for.
He lies and covers up lies with more lies.
He is totally insensitive to the importance of separating facts from
fictions, and truths from falsehoods. Just one latest example
suffices to illustrate this point: He told V. Putin about bringing
religious freedom to Iraq by his vastly destructive aggression.
Naturally Putin disagreed and in public gave him in no uncertain term
his assessment.
We know indeed that Christians were free to worship under Saddam's
Baathist regime. Indeed, the Shiite clerics were given a lot of money
to build lavish mosques, perhaps as Saddam's carrot for them to stay
peaceful. Shiites were able to worship freely just as their Sunni
counterparts, as long as they did not participate in rebellions.
But the post-invasion, US-occupied Iraq is not a hospitable place for
either the Christians or the Muslims. Not even atheletes are allowed
to wear shorts in their games. Militant Shiites who've gotten their
revenge against the Sunnis through the disproportionate help of the US
military now turn around and oppress everyone who does not follow the
Shiite doctrines.
Many women are now made to wear veil and discouraged from going to the
university or taking up responsible social positions as they were
accustomed to do in the decades of Iraq's Baathist rule.
What religious freedom has George Bush's brand of violence brought to
Iraq? George Bush never ventures out into unsafe places; so he can't
know from first-person experience. But as the supreme leader of the
most powerful country in the world surrounded by dozens of advisers
everyday, he ought to know, unless he's been fed false information.
But who is or dare to be feeding him the false information?
His insensitivity toward the sanctity of life revealed itself when he
talked incessantly about a wild boar dinner in Germany last week as
Lebanon burned and civilians died.
And his boorish insensitivity further revealed itself when he arrived
at a G8 session late in Petersburg but instead of proceeding to his
seat quietly as the session was in progress, he stopped behind the
German Chancellor and squeezed her shoulders while she was actually
speaking. She clearly didn't welcome it.
In today's political-correct US society, uninvited physical touching
of an adult female is ground enough to be sued for sexual harassment.
Bush's behavior as captured by the video footage shows he is not a
part of the society he governs. He is either unaware or just plain
arrogant.
Either way, it shows a lack of introspection.
George Bush projects the US poorly when he consistently reveals
himself to be an unthinking boor.
Another example for an unthinking boor is Joe Lieberman, the senator
from the big insurance state Connecticut, a politician who wouldn't
quit his senate job to run as Al Gore's vice president, a religious
fanatic who wouldn't mind another person to turn on the light for him
on Sabbath but wouldn't do it himself, and a hypocritical democrat who
vowed to quit the party to run as an independent for the senate seat
he now holds if his fellow connecticut democrats refuse to re-endorse
him to run.
His apologists dismiss Lieberman's detractors as a one-issue voters
who are obssessed with only the Iraq war and try to portray his lack
of senstivity for human lives (as long as those aren't Israeli lives)
as some kind of virtue, fighting for that which he truly believes.
Put aside the high probability that Lieberman has actually in mind the
interests of Israel's right-winged agenda over those of the US, these
apologists are missing the point that people who have gone so far to
support a neophyte from NYC are more fed up with the insensitivity our
so-called leaders and representatives showed toward the destruction in
Iraq our war has caused than all these other issues the war policy has
dwarfed.
Let Bill Clinton, Barbara Boxer, and other politicos go and campaign
for Lieberman who has arduously supported the destruction of Iraq and
the further destruction of Middle East in favor of the right-winged
agenda of Israel. They only show that they themselves are also not so
sensitive toward the many innocent lives being wasted simply because
of Bush's thoughtless PNAC agenda to change the world.
Bush's thoughtless terror war is prosecuted at the huge (and now even
uncontrollable) human and environmental costs we have seen.
One thing that the educated Americans have shown their progressiveness
is their sensitivity toward the environment. America is supposed to
have environmentalists, despite the insensitivity of our political
``leaders''. One thing the educated Americans, environmentalists or
not, can see is that if the Israel government is dropping over 30 tons
of explosives in yesterday's bombing missions in Lebanon as it has
claimed, then almost 100 tons more of carbon doxides (CO2), various
oxides of nitrogen, and oxides of sulfur, are now blanketing our skies.
Here is our greenhouse effect. This has not even accounted for the
enormous amount of dust which got splashed into the atmosphere due to
the blasts. What would mother nature's response be? An instant clean
up and cool down? Nope. The world will be hotter because of the
bombings. The world will be smoggier for a long time. The global
atmospheric system will be unstable for a long, long time.
People who are uneducated or un-introspective are responsible for the
suffering the world around now receives.
The world would have gotten hotter and smoggier because of industrial
energy consumption. But it would have done so at a more moderate pace.
Modern wars indiscriminantly waged are making the world a lot hotter
and at a breakneck and murderous pace.
But until enough people in the US and also other countries become more
introspective and therefore more educated about our own survival and
that of our children, we have no choice but wait for all the natural
consequences of wars to engulf us, all of us.
lo yeeOn
========
>
>But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
>forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
>atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
>fundamental right of life.
>
>
> When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
>certain
> animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
>of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
>The
> meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
>the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
>eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
>
> Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
>being
> almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
>hard,
> it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
> which
> can be easily avoided.
>
> Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>> >
>> > Body Dharma - on health
>> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
>> was
>> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
>> > identical in man and beast.
>> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
>poisons
>> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
>> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
>> apetit!
>> >
>> > VEGETARIANISM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
>for
>> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
>> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
>non-vegetarian.
>> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
>vegetarians.
>> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
>> >
>> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
>> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
>> the
>> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
>> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
>> digested
>> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
>> digestion
>> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
>> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
>longest
>> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
>> and
>> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
>> >
>> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
>> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
>> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
>a
>> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
>> meditation
>> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
>be
>> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
>> >
>> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
>> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
>> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
>> If
>> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
>and
>> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
>a
>> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
>all
>> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
>> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
>> body
>> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
>> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
>> has
>> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
>in
>> > your body.
>> >
>> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
>> specific
>> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
>> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
>when
>> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
>lower
>> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
>> and
>> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
>> >
>> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
>> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
>> more
>> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
>> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
>> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
>> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
>satiated.
>> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
>food.
>> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
>> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
>> controller.
>> >
>> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
>> the
>> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
>> specific
>> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
>> that
>> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
>food
>> is
>> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
>master,
>> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
>> be
>> > confused.
>> >
>> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
>be
>> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
>> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
>> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
>eat,
>> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
>> the
>> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
>smell,
>> is
>> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
>> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
>or
>> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
>> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
>> >
>> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
>> buffaloes
>> > to eat ice cream. Try!
>> >
>> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
>needs.
>> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
>> the
>> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
>> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
>> will
>> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
>> >
>> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
>a
>> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
>> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
>> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
>> the
>> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
>> > kingdom.
>> >
>> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
>the
>> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
>> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
>> behave
>> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
>> much
>> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
>You
>> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
>you
>> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
>> >
>> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
>> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
>of
>> a
>> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
>> they
>> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
>> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
>> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
>> angry.
>> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
>> feeling
>> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
>> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
>> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
>> >
>> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
>> >
>> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
>
>
|
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| And the consequences of modern wars Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #226765 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 03:10 |
|
In article <44bf2909 [at] news.starhub.net.sg>, dd <dd [at] d.com> wrote:
>The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
>is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
>killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
>for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
>forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
>cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
>about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
>yourself?
Very reasonable. The lack of sensitivity toward others' lives shows a
lack of introspection. It shows the individual as unthinking. How
can an unthinking person be our chosen leader? Good question!
Let's take a look at George Bush, our mysteriously chosen president.
He advocates pre-emptive strikes against other nations in the name of
solving international problems and achieving freedom for others.
He advocates unilateralism and shows no sign of abatement of extremist
desires. In fact, he is working to extend John Bolton's un-approved
tenure at the UN, a boorish representative his colleagues have little
respect for.
He lies and covers up lies with more lies.
He is totally insensitive to the importance of separating facts from
fictions, and truths from falsehoods. Just one latest example
suffices to illustrate this point: He told V. Putin about bringing
religious freedom to Iraq by his vastly destructive aggression.
Naturally Putin disagreed and in public gave him in no uncertain term
his assessment.
We know indeed that Christians were free to worship under Saddam's
Baathist regime. Indeed, the Shiite clerics were given a lot of money
to build lavish mosques, perhaps as Saddam's carrot for them to stay
peaceful. Shiites were able to worship freely just as their Sunni
counterparts, as long as they did not participate in rebellions.
But the post-invasion, US-occupied Iraq is not a hospitable place for
either the Christians or the Muslims. Not even atheletes are allowed
to wear shorts in their games. Militant Shiites who've gotten their
revenge against the Sunnis through the disproportionate help of the US
military now turn around and oppress everyone who does not follow the
Shiite doctrines.
Many women are now made to wear veil and discouraged from going to the
university or taking up responsible social positions as they were
accustomed to do in the decades of Iraq's Baathist rule.
And ultimately, what meaning of religious freedom can remain if your
or your loved one's life has been suddenly snuffed out at the blink of
George Bush's thought to give you religious liberty or if you and your
family must flee and hide in order to stay alive and have no means for
a livelihood?
What religious freedom has George Bush's brand of violence brought to
Iraq? George Bush never ventures out into unsafe places; so he can't
know from first-person experience. But as the supreme leader of the
most powerful country in the world surrounded by dozens of advisers
everyday, he ought to know, unless he's been fed false information.
But who is or dare to be feeding him the false information?
His insensitivity toward the sanctity of life revealed itself when he
talked incessantly about a wild boar dinner in Germany last week as
Lebanon burned and civilians died.
And his boorish insensitivity further revealed itself when he arrived
at a G8 session late in Petersburg but instead of proceeding to his
seat quietly as the session was in progress, he stopped behind the
German Chancellor and squeezed her shoulders while she was actually
speaking. She clearly didn't welcome it.
In today's political-correct US society, uninvited physical touching
of an adult female is ground enough to be sued for sexual harassment.
Bush's behavior as captured by the video footage shows he is not a
part of the society he governs. He is either unaware or just plain
arrogant.
Either way, it shows a lack of introspection.
George Bush projects the US poorly when he consistently reveals
himself to be an unthinking boor.
Another example for an unthinking boor is Joe Lieberman, the senator
from the big insurance state Connecticut, a politician who wouldn't
quit his senate job to run as Al Gore's vice president, a religious
fanatic who wouldn't mind another person to turn on the light for him
on Sabbath but wouldn't do it himself, and a hypocritical democrat who
vowed to quit the party to run as an independent for the senate seat
he now holds if his fellow connecticut democrats refuse to re-endorse
him to run.
His apologists dismiss Lieberman's detractors as a one-issue voters
who are obssessed with only the Iraq war and try to portray his lack
of senstivity for human lives (as long as those aren't Israeli lives)
as some kind of virtue, fighting for that which he truly believes.
Put aside the high probability that Lieberman has actually in mind the
interests of Israel's right-winged agenda over those of the US, these
apologists are missing the point that people who have gone so far to
support a neophyte from NYC are more fed up with the insensitivity our
so-called leaders and representatives showed toward the destruction in
Iraq our war has caused than all these other issues the war policy has
dwarfed.
Let Bill Clinton, Barbara Boxer, and other politicos go and campaign
for Lieberman who has arduously supported the destruction of Iraq and
the further destruction of Middle East in favor of the right-winged
agenda of Israel. They only show that they themselves are also not so
sensitive toward the many innocent lives being wasted simply because
of Bush's thoughtless PNAC agenda to change the world.
Bush's thoughtless terror war is prosecuted at the huge (and now even
uncontrollable) human and environmental costs we have seen.
One thing that the educated Americans have shown their progressiveness
is their sensitivity toward the environment. America is supposed to
have environmentalists, despite the insensitivity of our political
``leaders''. One thing the educated Americans, environmentalists or
not, can see is that if the Israel government is dropping over 30 tons
of explosives in yesterday's bombing missions in Lebanon as it has
claimed, then almost 100 tons more of carbon doxides (CO2), various
oxides of nitrogen, and oxides of sulfur, are now blanketing our skies.
Here is our greenhouse effect. This has not even accounted for the
enormous amount of dust which got splashed into the atmosphere due to
the blasts. What would mother nature's response be? An instant clean
up and cool down? Nope. The world will be hotter because of the
bombings. The world will be smoggier for a long time. The global
atmospheric system will be unstable for a long, long time.
People who are uneducated or un-introspective are responsible for the
suffering the world around now receives.
The world would have gotten hotter and smoggier because of industrial
energy consumption. But it would have done so at a more moderate pace.
Modern wars indiscriminantly waged are making the world a lot hotter
and at a breakneck and murderous pace.
But until enough people in the US and also other countries become more
introspective and therefore more educated about our own survival and
that of our children, we have no choice but wait for all the natural
consequences of wars to engulf us, all of us.
lo yeeOn
========
>
>But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
>forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
>atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
>fundamental right of life.
>
>
> When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
>certain
> animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
>of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
>The
> meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
>the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
>eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
>
> Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
>being
> almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
>hard,
> it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
> which
> can be easily avoided.
>
> Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>> >
>> > Body Dharma - on health
>> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
>> was
>> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
>> > identical in man and beast.
>> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
>poisons
>> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
>> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
>> apetit!
>> >
>> > VEGETARIANISM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
>for
>> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
>> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
>non-vegetarian.
>> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
>vegetarians.
>> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
>> >
>> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
>> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
>> the
>> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
>> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
>> digested
>> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
>> digestion
>> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
>> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
>longest
>> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
>> and
>> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
>> >
>> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
>> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
>> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
>a
>> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
>> meditation
>> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
>be
>> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
>> >
>> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
>> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
>> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
>> If
>> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
>and
>> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
>a
>> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
>all
>> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
>> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
>> body
>> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
>> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
>> has
>> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
>in
>> > your body.
>> >
>> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
>> specific
>> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
>> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
>when
>> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
>lower
>> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
>> and
>> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
>> >
>> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
>> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
>> more
>> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
>> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
>> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
>> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
>satiated.
>> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
>food.
>> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
>> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
>> controller.
>> >
>> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
>> the
>> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
>> specific
>> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
>> that
>> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
>food
>> is
>> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
>master,
>> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
>> be
>> > confused.
>> >
>> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
>be
>> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
>> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
>> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
>eat,
>> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
>> the
>> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
>smell,
>> is
>> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
>> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
>or
>> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
>> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
>> >
>> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
>> buffaloes
>> > to eat ice cream. Try!
>> >
>> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
>needs.
>> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
>> the
>> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
>> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
>> will
>> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
>> >
>> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
>a
>> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
>> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
>> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
>> the
>> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
>> > kingdom.
>> >
>> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
>the
>> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
>> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
>> behave
>> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
>> much
>> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
>You
>> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
>you
>> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
>> >
>> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
>> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
>of
>> a
>> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
>> they
>> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
>> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
>> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
>> angry.
>> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
>> feeling
>> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
>> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
>> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
>> >
>> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
>> >
>> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
>
>
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|
| Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #226769 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 03:41 |
|
Hogwash.
dd wrote:
> The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
> is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
> killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
> for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
> forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
> cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
> about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
> yourself?
>
> But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
> forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
> atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
> fundamental right of life.
>
>
> When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
> certain
> animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
> of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
> The
> meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
> the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
> eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
>
> Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
> being
> almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
> hard,
> it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
> which
> can be easily avoided.
>
> Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>>>Body Dharma - on health
>>>Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
>>
>>was
>>
>>>killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
>>>identical in man and beast.
>>>Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
>
> poisons
>
>>>because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
>>>that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
>>
>>apetit!
>>
>>>VEGETARIANISM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
>
> for
>
>>>vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
>>>structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
>
> non-vegetarian.
>
>>>Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
>
> vegetarians.
>
>>>If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
>>>
>>>Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
>>>vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
>>
>>the
>>
>>>intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
>>>lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
>>
>>digested
>>
>>>food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
>>
>>digestion
>>
>>>has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
>>>already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
>
> longest
>
>>>intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
>>
>>and
>>
>>>much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
>>>
>>>If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
>>>burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
>>>emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
>
> a
>
>>>secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
>>
>>meditation
>>
>>>your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
>
> be
>
>>>unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
>>>
>>>Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
>>>happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
>>>killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
>>
>>If
>>
>>>somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
>
> and
>
>>>kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
>
> a
>
>>>lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
>
> all
>
>>>these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
>>>agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
>>
>>body
>>
>>>glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
>>>then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
>>
>>has
>>
>>>released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
>
> in
>
>>>your body.
>>>
>>>That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
>>
>>specific
>>
>>>purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
>>>body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
>
> when
>
>>>you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
>
> lower
>
>>>plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
>>
>>and
>>
>>>your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
>>>
>>>One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
>>>vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
>>
>>more
>>
>>>of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
>>>satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
>>>fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
>>>fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
>
> satiated.
>
>>>In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
>
> food.
>
>>>Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
>>>need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
>>
>>controller.
>>
>>>The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
>>
>>the
>>
>>>stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
>>
>>specific
>>
>>>purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
>>
>>that
>>
>>>is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
>
> food
>
>>is
>>
>>>not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
>
> master,
>
>>>and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
>>
>>be
>>
>>>confused.
>>>
>>>Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
>
> be
>
>>>tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
>>>research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
>>>completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
>
> eat,
>
>>>you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
>>
>>the
>>
>>>nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
>
> smell,
>
>>is
>>
>>>decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
>>>become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
>
> or
>
>>>not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
>>>which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
>>>
>>>Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
>>
>>buffaloes
>>
>>>to eat ice cream. Try!
>>>
>>>A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
>
> needs.
>
>>>The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
>>
>>the
>>
>>>meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
>>>expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
>>
>>will
>>
>>>have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
>>>
>>>When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
>
> a
>
>>>certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
>>>situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
>>>moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
>>
>>the
>>
>>>two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
>>>kingdom.
>>>
>>>When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
>
> the
>
>>>teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
>>>profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
>>
>>behave
>>
>>>like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
>>
>>much
>>
>>>for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
>
> You
>
>>>suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
>
> you
>
>>>go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
>>>
>>>I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
>>>blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
>
> of
>
>>a
>>
>>>person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
>>
>>they
>>
>>>lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
>>>have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
>>>touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
>>
>>angry.
>>
>>>There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
>>
>>feeling
>>
>>>angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
>>>accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
>>>released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
>>>
>>>To read more on this subject, go to Library
>>>
>>>Copyright � 2004 Osho International Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
>
>
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| And the consequences of modern wars Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #227888 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 03:01 |
|
In article <44bf2909 [at] news.starhub.net.sg>, dd <dd [at] d.com> wrote:
>The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
>is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
>killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
>for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
>forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
>cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
>about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
>yourself?
Very reasonable. The lack of sensitivity toward others' lives shows a
lack of introspection. It shows the individual as unthinking. How
can an unthinking person be our chosen leader? Good question!
Let's take a look at George Bush, our mysteriously chosen president.
He advocates pre-emptive strikes against other nations in the name of
solving international problems and achieving freedom for others.
He advocates unilateralism and shows no sign of abatement of extremist
desires. In fact, he is working to extend John Bolton's un-approved
tenure at the UN, a boorish representative his colleagues have little
respect for.
He lies and covers up lies with more lies.
He is totally insensitive to the importance of separating facts from
fictions, and truths from falsehoods. Just one latest example
suffices to illustrate this point: He told V. Putin about bringing
religious freedom to Iraq by his vastly destructive aggression.
Naturally Putin disagreed and in public gave him in no uncertain term
his assessment.
We know indeed that Christians were free to worship under Saddam's
Baathist regime. Indeed, the Shiite clerics were given a lot of money
to build lavish mosques, perhaps as Saddam's carrot for them to stay
peaceful. Shiites were able to worship freely just as their Sunni
counterparts, as long as they did not participate in rebellions.
But the post-invasion, US-occupied Iraq is not a hospitable place for
either the Christians or the Muslims. Not even atheletes are allowed
to wear shorts in their games. Militant Shiites who've gotten their
revenge against the Sunnis through the disproportionate help of the US
military now turn around and oppress everyone who does not follow the
Shiite doctrines.
Many women are now made to wear veil and discouraged from going to the
university or taking up responsible social positions as they were
accustomed to do in the decades of Iraq's Baathist rule.
What religious freedom has George Bush's brand of violence brought to
Iraq? George Bush never ventures out into unsafe places; so he can't
know from first-person experience. But as the supreme leader of the
most powerful country in the world surrounded by dozens of advisers
everyday, he ought to know, unless he's been fed false information.
But who is or dare to be feeding him the false information?
His insensitivity toward the sanctity of life revealed itself when he
talked incessantly about a wild boar dinner in Germany last week as
Lebanon burned and civilians died.
And his boorish insensitivity further revealed itself when he arrived
at a G8 session late in Petersburg but instead of proceeding to his
seat quietly as the session was in progress, he stopped behind the
German Chancellor and squeezed her shoulders while she was actually
speaking. She clearly didn't welcome it.
In today's political-correct US society, uninvited physical touching
of an adult female is ground enough to be sued for sexual harassment.
Bush's behavior as captured by the video footage shows he is not a
part of the society he governs. He is either unaware or just plain
arrogant.
Either way, it shows a lack of introspection.
George Bush projects the US poorly when he consistently reveals
himself to be an unthinking boor.
Another example for an unthinking boor is Joe Lieberman, the senator
from the big insurance state Connecticut, a politician who wouldn't
quit his senate job to run as Al Gore's vice president, a religious
fanatic who wouldn't mind another person to turn on the light for him
on Sabbath but wouldn't do it himself, and a hypocritical democrat who
vowed to quit the party to run as an independent for the senate seat
he now holds if his fellow connecticut democrats refuse to re-endorse
him to run.
His apologists dismiss Lieberman's detractors as a one-issue voters
who are obssessed with only the Iraq war and try to portray his lack
of senstivity for human lives (as long as those aren't Israeli lives)
as some kind of virtue, fighting for that which he truly believes.
Put aside the high probability that Lieberman has actually in mind the
interests of Israel's right-winged agenda over those of the US, these
apologists are missing the point that people who have gone so far to
support a neophyte from NYC are more fed up with the insensitivity our
so-called leaders and representatives showed toward the destruction in
Iraq our war has caused than all these other issues the war policy has
dwarfed.
Let Bill Clinton, Barbara Boxer, and other politicos go and campaign
for Lieberman who has arduously supported the destruction of Iraq and
the further destruction of Middle East in favor of the right-winged
agenda of Israel. They only show that they themselves are also not so
sensitive toward the many innocent lives being wasted simply because
of Bush's thoughtless PNAC agenda to change the world.
Bush's thoughtless terror war is prosecuted at the huge (and now even
uncontrollable) human and environmental costs we have seen.
One thing that the educated Americans have shown their progressiveness
is their sensitivity toward the environment. America is supposed to
have environmentalists, despite the insensitivity of our political
``leaders''. One thing the educated Americans, environmentalists or
not, can see is that if the Israel government is dropping over 30 tons
of explosives in yesterday's bombing missions in Lebanon as it has
claimed, then almost 100 tons more of carbon doxides (CO2), various
oxides of nitrogen, and oxides of sulfur, are now blanketing our skies.
Here is our greenhouse effect. This has not even accounted for the
enormous amount of dust which got splashed into the atmosphere due to
the blasts. What would mother nature's response be? An instant clean
up and cool down? Nope. The world will be hotter because of the
bombings. The world will be smoggier for a long time. The global
atmospheric system will be unstable for a long, long time.
People who are uneducated or un-introspective are responsible for the
suffering the world around now receives.
The world would have gotten hotter and smoggier because of industrial
energy consumption. But it would have done so at a more moderate pace.
Modern wars indiscriminantly waged are making the world a lot hotter
and at a breakneck and murderous pace.
But until enough people in the US and also other countries become more
introspective and therefore more educated about our own survival and
that of our children, we have no choice but wait for all the natural
consequences of wars to engulf us, all of us.
lo yeeOn
========
>
>But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
>forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
>atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
>fundamental right of life.
>
>
> When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
>certain
> animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
>of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
>The
> meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
>the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
>eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
>
> Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
>being
> almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
>hard,
> it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
> which
> can be easily avoided.
>
> Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>> >
>> > Body Dharma - on health
>> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
>> was
>> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
>> > identical in man and beast.
>> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
>poisons
>> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
>> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
>> apetit!
>> >
>> > VEGETARIANISM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
>for
>> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
>> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
>non-vegetarian.
>> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
>vegetarians.
>> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
>> >
>> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
>> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
>> the
>> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
>> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
>> digested
>> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
>> digestion
>> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
>> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
>longest
>> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
>> and
>> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
>> >
>> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
>> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
>> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
>a
>> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
>> meditation
>> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
>be
>> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
>> >
>> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
>> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
>> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
>> If
>> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
>and
>> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
>a
>> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
>all
>> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
>> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
>> body
>> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
>> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
>> has
>> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
>in
>> > your body.
>> >
>> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
>> specific
>> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
>> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
>when
>> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
>lower
>> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
>> and
>> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
>> >
>> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
>> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
>> more
>> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
>> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
>> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
>> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
>satiated.
>> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
>food.
>> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
>> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
>> controller.
>> >
>> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
>> the
>> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
>> specific
>> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
>> that
>> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
>food
>> is
>> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
>master,
>> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
>> be
>> > confused.
>> >
>> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
>be
>> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
>> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
>> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
>eat,
>> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
>> the
>> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
>smell,
>> is
>> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
>> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
>or
>> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
>> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
>> >
>> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
>> buffaloes
>> > to eat ice cream. Try!
>> >
>> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
>needs.
>> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
>> the
>> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
>> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
>> will
>> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
>> >
>> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
>a
>> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
>> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
>> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
>> the
>> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
>> > kingdom.
>> >
>> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
>the
>> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
>> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
>> behave
>> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
>> much
>> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
>You
>> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
>you
>> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
>> >
>> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
>> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
>of
>> a
>> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
>> they
>> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
>> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
>> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
>> angry.
>> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
>> feeling
>> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
>> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
>> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
>> >
>> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
>> >
>> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
>
>
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| And the consequences of modern wars Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #227890 ] |
Fr, 21 Juli 2006 03:10 |
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In article <44bf2909 [at] news.starhub.net.sg>, dd <dd [at] d.com> wrote:
>The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
>is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
>killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
>for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
>forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
>cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
>about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
>yourself?
Very reasonable. The lack of sensitivity toward others' lives shows a
lack of introspection. It shows the individual as unthinking. How
can an unthinking person be our chosen leader? Good question!
Let's take a look at George Bush, our mysteriously chosen president.
He advocates pre-emptive strikes against other nations in the name of
solving international problems and achieving freedom for others.
He advocates unilateralism and shows no sign of abatement of extremist
desires. In fact, he is working to extend John Bolton's un-approved
tenure at the UN, a boorish representative his colleagues have little
respect for.
He lies and covers up lies with more lies.
He is totally insensitive to the importance of separating facts from
fictions, and truths from falsehoods. Just one latest example
suffices to illustrate this point: He told V. Putin about bringing
religious freedom to Iraq by his vastly destructive aggression.
Naturally Putin disagreed and in public gave him in no uncertain term
his assessment.
We know indeed that Christians were free to worship under Saddam's
Baathist regime. Indeed, the Shiite clerics were given a lot of money
to build lavish mosques, perhaps as Saddam's carrot for them to stay
peaceful. Shiites were able to worship freely just as their Sunni
counterparts, as long as they did not participate in rebellions.
But the post-invasion, US-occupied Iraq is not a hospitable place for
either the Christians or the Muslims. Not even atheletes are allowed
to wear shorts in their games. Militant Shiites who've gotten their
revenge against the Sunnis through the disproportionate help of the US
military now turn around and oppress everyone who does not follow the
Shiite doctrines.
Many women are now made to wear veil and discouraged from going to the
university or taking up responsible social positions as they were
accustomed to do in the decades of Iraq's Baathist rule.
And ultimately, what meaning of religious freedom can remain if your
or your loved one's life has been suddenly snuffed out at the blink of
George Bush's thought to give you religious liberty or if you and your
family must flee and hide in order to stay alive and have no means for
a livelihood?
What religious freedom has George Bush's brand of violence brought to
Iraq? George Bush never ventures out into unsafe places; so he can't
know from first-person experience. But as the supreme leader of the
most powerful country in the world surrounded by dozens of advisers
everyday, he ought to know, unless he's been fed false information.
But who is or dare to be feeding him the false information?
His insensitivity toward the sanctity of life revealed itself when he
talked incessantly about a wild boar dinner in Germany last week as
Lebanon burned and civilians died.
And his boorish insensitivity further revealed itself when he arrived
at a G8 session late in Petersburg but instead of proceeding to his
seat quietly as the session was in progress, he stopped behind the
German Chancellor and squeezed her shoulders while she was actually
speaking. She clearly didn't welcome it.
In today's political-correct US society, uninvited physical touching
of an adult female is ground enough to be sued for sexual harassment.
Bush's behavior as captured by the video footage shows he is not a
part of the society he governs. He is either unaware or just plain
arrogant.
Either way, it shows a lack of introspection.
George Bush projects the US poorly when he consistently reveals
himself to be an unthinking boor.
Another example for an unthinking boor is Joe Lieberman, the senator
from the big insurance state Connecticut, a politician who wouldn't
quit his senate job to run as Al Gore's vice president, a religious
fanatic who wouldn't mind another person to turn on the light for him
on Sabbath but wouldn't do it himself, and a hypocritical democrat who
vowed to quit the party to run as an independent for the senate seat
he now holds if his fellow connecticut democrats refuse to re-endorse
him to run.
His apologists dismiss Lieberman's detractors as a one-issue voters
who are obssessed with only the Iraq war and try to portray his lack
of senstivity for human lives (as long as those aren't Israeli lives)
as some kind of virtue, fighting for that which he truly believes.
Put aside the high probability that Lieberman has actually in mind the
interests of Israel's right-winged agenda over those of the US, these
apologists are missing the point that people who have gone so far to
support a neophyte from NYC are more fed up with the insensitivity our
so-called leaders and representatives showed toward the destruction in
Iraq our war has caused than all these other issues the war policy has
dwarfed.
Let Bill Clinton, Barbara Boxer, and other politicos go and campaign
for Lieberman who has arduously supported the destruction of Iraq and
the further destruction of Middle East in favor of the right-winged
agenda of Israel. They only show that they themselves are also not so
sensitive toward the many innocent lives being wasted simply because
of Bush's thoughtless PNAC agenda to change the world.
Bush's thoughtless terror war is prosecuted at the huge (and now even
uncontrollable) human and environmental costs we have seen.
One thing that the educated Americans have shown their progressiveness
is their sensitivity toward the environment. America is supposed to
have environmentalists, despite the insensitivity of our political
``leaders''. One thing the educated Americans, environmentalists or
not, can see is that if the Israel government is dropping over 30 tons
of explosives in yesterday's bombing missions in Lebanon as it has
claimed, then almost 100 tons more of carbon doxides (CO2), various
oxides of nitrogen, and oxides of sulfur, are now blanketing our skies.
Here is our greenhouse effect. This has not even accounted for the
enormous amount of dust which got splashed into the atmosphere due to
the blasts. What would mother nature's response be? An instant clean
up and cool down? Nope. The world will be hotter because of the
bombings. The world will be smoggier for a long time. The global
atmospheric system will be unstable for a long, long time.
People who are uneducated or un-introspective are responsible for the
suffering the world around now receives.
The world would have gotten hotter and smoggier because of industrial
energy consumption. But it would have done so at a more moderate pace.
Modern wars indiscriminantly waged are making the world a lot hotter
and at a breakneck and murderous pace.
But until enough people in the US and also other countries become more
introspective and therefore more educated about our own survival and
that of our children, we have no choice but wait for all the natural
consequences of wars to engulf us, all of us.
lo yeeOn
========
>
>But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
>forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
>atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
>fundamental right of life.
>
>
> When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
>certain
> animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
>of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
>The
> meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
>the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
>eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
>
> Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
>being
> almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
>hard,
> it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
> which
> can be easily avoided.
>
> Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>> >
>> > Body Dharma - on health
>> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
>> was
>> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
>> > identical in man and beast.
>> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
>poisons
>> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
>> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
>> apetit!
>> >
>> > VEGETARIANISM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
>for
>> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
>> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
>non-vegetarian.
>> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
>vegetarians.
>> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
>> >
>> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
>> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
>> the
>> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
>> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
>> digested
>> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
>> digestion
>> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
>> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
>longest
>> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
>> and
>> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
>> >
>> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
>> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
>> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
>a
>> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
>> meditation
>> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
>be
>> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
>> >
>> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
>> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
>> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
>> If
>> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
>and
>> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
>a
>> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
>all
>> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
>> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
>> body
>> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
>> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
>> has
>> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
>in
>> > your body.
>> >
>> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
>> specific
>> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
>> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
>when
>> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
>lower
>> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
>> and
>> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
>> >
>> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
>> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
>> more
>> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
>> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
>> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
>> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
>satiated.
>> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
>food.
>> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
>> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
>> controller.
>> >
>> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
>> the
>> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
>> specific
>> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
>> that
>> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
>food
>> is
>> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
>master,
>> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
>> be
>> > confused.
>> >
>> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
>be
>> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
>> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
>> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
>eat,
>> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
>> the
>> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
>smell,
>> is
>> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
>> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
>or
>> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
>> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
>> >
>> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
>> buffaloes
>> > to eat ice cream. Try!
>> >
>> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
>needs.
>> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
>> the
>> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
>> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
>> will
>> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
>> >
>> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
>a
>> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
>> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
>> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
>> the
>> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
>> > kingdom.
>> >
>> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
>the
>> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
>> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
>> behave
>> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
>> much
>> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
>You
>> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
>you
>> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
>> >
>> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
>> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
>of
>> a
>> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
>> they
>> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
>> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
>> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
>> angry.
>> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
>> feeling
>> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
>> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
>> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
>> >
>> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
>> >
>> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
>
>
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