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how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #227689] Do, 20 Juli 2006 23:57
dd  
The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
yourself?

But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
fundamental right of life.


When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
certain
animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
The
meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.

Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
being
almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
hard,
it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
which
can be easily avoided.

Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation

http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
> >
> > Body Dharma - on health
> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
> was
> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
> > identical in man and beast.
> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
poisons
> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
> apetit!
> >
> > VEGETARIANISM
> >
> >
> >
> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
for
> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
non-vegetarian.
> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
vegetarians.
> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
> >
> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
> the
> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
> digested
> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
> digestion
> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
longest
> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
> and
> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
> >
> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
a
> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
> meditation
> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
be
> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
> >
> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
> If
> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
and
> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
a
> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
all
> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
> body
> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
> has
> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
in
> > your body.
> >
> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
> specific
> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
when
> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
lower
> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
> and
> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
> >
> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
> more
> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
satiated.
> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
food.
> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
> controller.
> >
> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
> the
> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
> specific
> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
> that
> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
food
> is
> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
master,
> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
> be
> > confused.
> >
> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
be
> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
eat,
> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
> the
> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
smell,
> is
> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
or
> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
> >
> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
> buffaloes
> > to eat ice cream. Try!
> >
> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
needs.
> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
> the
> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
> will
> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
> >
> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
a
> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
> the
> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
> > kingdom.
> >
> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
the
> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
> behave
> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
> much
> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
You
> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
you
> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
> >
> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
of
> a
> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
> they
> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
> angry.
> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
> feeling
> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
> >
> >
> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
> >
> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
> >
> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
> >
> >
> >

http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
Re: how eating meat causes wars and conflicts [message #227704 ] Do, 20 Juli 2006 10:32
Ventura  
Hi, dd (Dr. DooLittle?).....irrelevant


"dd" <dd [at] d.com> wrote in message news:44bf28fb$1 [at] news.starhub.net.sg...
> The right to life is possible only in a certain, different atmosphere that
> is not present on the earth at the moment. Animals are killed, birds are
> killed, sea animals are killed, just for game. You don't have any reverence
> for life. And life is the same whether it is in human beings or in other
> forms. Unless man becomes aware of his violence towards animals, birds, he
> cannot be really alert about his own right to life. If you are not caring
> about others' lives, what right have you got to demand the same right for
> yourself?
>
> But the whole of humanity is non-vegetarian; they are all eating other life
> forms. There is no reverence for life as such. Unless we create an
> atmosphere of reverence for life, man cannot realize the goal of getting his
> fundamental right of life.
>
>
> When you eat meat you are not only taking food, you are allowing a
> certain
> animal from which the meat has come to enter in you. The meat was part
> of a particular body, the meat was part of a particular instinct pattern.
> The
> meat was the animal just a few hours before, and that meat carries all
> the impressions of the animal, all the habits of the animal. When you are
> eating meat your many attitudes will be affected by it.
>
> Non-vegetarian food is one of the basic causes of the whole society
> being
> almost in a continuous fight. It makes you insensitive, it makes you
> hard,
> it makes you a stone. And it creates things in you - anger, violence -
> which
> can be easily avoided.
>
> Copyright 2002 Osho International Foundation
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>> >
>> > Body Dharma - on health
>> > Eating a dead animal's flesh we are absorbing the emotions it felt as it
>> was
>> > killed. The chemistry of emotions - neurotransmitter substances - are
>> > identical in man and beast.
>> > Osho describes, "all the body glands (the dying animal's) release
> poisons
>> > because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And when you eat the meat;
>> > that meat carries all the poisons that the animal has released." Bon
>> apetit!
>> >
>> > VEGETARIANISM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Man, naturally, should be a vegetarian, because the whole body is made
> for
>> > vegetarian food. Even scientists concede to the fact that the whole
>> > structure of the human body shows that man should not be a
> non-vegetarian.
>> > Man comes from the monkeys. Monkeys are vegetarians, absolute
> vegetarians.
>> > If Darwin is true then man should be a vegetarian.
>> >
>> > Now there are ways to judge whether a certain species of animal is
>> > vegetarian or non-vegetarian: it depends on the intestine, the length of
>> the
>> > intestine. Non-vegetarian animals have a very small intestine. Tigers,
>> > lions - they have a very small intestine, because meat is already a
>> digested
>> > food. It does not need a long intestine to digest it. The work of
>> digestion
>> > has been done by the animal. Now you are eating the animal's meat. It is
>> > already digested - no long intestine is needed. Man has one of the
> longest
>> > intestines: that means man is a vegetarian. A long digestion is needed,
>> and
>> > much excreta will be there which has to be thrown out.
>> >
>> > If man is not a non-vegetarian and he goes on eating meat, the body is
>> > burdened. In the East, all the great meditators - Buddha, Mahavir - have
>> > emphasized the fact. Not because of any concept of nonviolence - that is
> a
>> > secondary thing - but because if you really want to move in deep
>> meditation
>> > your body needs to be weightless, natural, flowing. Your body needs to
> be
>> > unloaded; and a non-vegetarian's body is very loaded.
>> >
>> > Just watch what happens when you eat meat: when you kill an animal what
>> > happens to the animal when he is killed? Of course, nobody wants to be
>> > killed. Life wants to prolong itself; the animal is not dying willingly.
>> If
>> > somebody kills you, you will not die willingly. If a lion jumps on you
> and
>> > kills you, what will happen to your mind? The same happens when you kill
> a
>> > lion. Agony, fear, death, anguish, anxiety, anger, violence, sadness -
> all
>> > these things happen to the animal. All over his body violence, anguish,
>> > agony spreads. The whole body becomes full of toxins, poisons. All the
>> body
>> > glands release poisons because the animal is dying very unwillingly. And
>> > then you eat the meat; that meat carries all the poisons that the animal
>> has
>> > released. The whole energy is poisonous. Then those poisons are carried
> in
>> > your body.
>> >
>> > That meat which you are eating belonged to an animal body. It had a
>> specific
>> > purpose there. A specific type of consciousness existed in the animal's
>> > body. You are on a higher plane than the animal's consciousness, and
> when
>> > you eat the animal's meat your body goes to the lowest plane, to the
> lower
>> > plane of the animal. Then there exists a gap between your consciousness
>> and
>> > your body, and a tension arises and anxiety arises.
>> >
>> > One should eat things which are natural, natural for you. Fruits, nuts,
>> > vegetables - eat as much as you can. The beauty is that you cannot eat
>> more
>> > of these things than is needed. Whatsoever is natural always gives you a
>> > satisfaction, because it satiates your body, saturates you. You feel
>> > fulfilled. If some thing is unnatural it never gives you a feeling of
>> > fulfillment. Go on eating ice cream: you never feel that you are
> satiated.
>> > In fact the more you eat, the more you feel like eating. It is not a
> food.
>> > Your mind is being tricked. Now you are not eating according to the body
>> > need; you are eating just to taste it. The tongue has become the
>> controller.
>> >
>> > The tongue should not be the controller. It does not know anything about
>> the
>> > stomach. It does not know anything about the body. The tongue has a
>> specific
>> > purpose to fulfill: to taste food. Naturally, the tongue has to judge,
>> that
>> > is the only thing, which food is for the body, for my body and which
> food
>> is
>> > not for my body. It is just a watchman on the door; it is not the
> master,
>> > and if the watchman on the door becomes the master, then everything will
>> be
>> > confused.
>> >
>> > Now advertisers know well that the tongue can be tricked, the nose can
> be
>> > tricked. And they are not the masters. You may not be aware: much food
>> > research goes on in the world, and they say if your nose is closed
>> > completely, and your eyes closed, and then you are given an onion to
> eat,
>> > you cannot tell what you are eating. You cannot tell onion from apple if
>> the
>> > nose is closed completely because half of the taste comes from the
> smell,
>> is
>> > decided by the nose, and half is decided by the tongue. These two have
>> > become the controllers. Now they know: whether ice cream is nutritious
> or
>> > not is not the point. It can carry a flavor, it can carry some chemicals
>> > which fulfill the tongue but are not needed for the body.
>> >
>> > Man is confused, more confused than buffaloes. You cannot convince
>> buffaloes
>> > to eat ice cream. Try!
>> >
>> > A natural food...and when I say natural I mean that which your body
> needs.
>> > The need of a tiger is different; he has to be very violent. If you eat
>> the
>> > meat of a tiger you will be violent, but where will your violence be
>> > expressed? You have to live in human society, not in a jungle. Then you
>> will
>> > have to suppress the violence. Then a vicious circle starts.
>> >
>> > When you suppress violence, what happens? When you feel angry, violent,
> a
>> > certain poisonous energy is released, because that poison creates a
>> > situation where you can be really violent and kill somebody. The energy
>> > moves towards your hands; the energy moves towards your teeth. These are
>> the
>> > two places from where animals become violent. Man is part of the animal
>> > kingdom.
>> >
>> > When you are angry, energy is released - it comes to the hands and to
> the
>> > teeth, to the jaw - but you live in a human society and it is not always
>> > profitable to be angry. You live in a civilized world and you cannot
>> behave
>> > like an animal. If you behave like an animal, you will have to pay too
>> much
>> > for it - and you are not ready to pay that much. Then what do you do?
> You
>> > suppress the anger in the hand; you suppress the anger in your teeth -
> you
>> > go on smiling a false smile, and your teeth go on accumulating anger.
>> >
>> > I have rarely come to see people with a natural jaw. It is not natural -
>> > blocked, stiff - because there is too much anger. If you press the jaw
> of
>> a
>> > person, the anger can be released. Hands become ugly. They lose grace,
>> they
>> > lose flexibility, because too much anger is suppressed there. People who
>> > have been working on deep massage, they have come to know that when you
>> > touch the hands deeply, massage the hands, the person starts becoming
>> angry.
>> > There is no reason. You are massaging the man and suddenly he starts
>> feeling
>> > angry. If you press the jaw, persons become angry again. They carry
>> > accumulated anger. These are the impurities in the body: they have to be
>> > released. If you don't release them the body will remain heavy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yoga: The Alpha and Omega
>> >
>> > To read more on this subject, go to Library
>> >
>> > Copyright © 2004 Osho International Foundation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> http://www.osho.com/Main.cfm?Area=Magazine&Language=Engl ish
>
>
>
>
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