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Culture & Politics » soc.culture.china » Israel's Brutalizing Force
Israel's Brutalizing Force [message #228567] So, 23 Juli 2006 16:50
Prince UT  
Israeli's senseless bombing on refugees while they are trying to escape. These are act of
barbarism. The whole world should come down hard on them.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060722 /mideast_crisis_main_060723/20060723?hub=TopStories


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Re: Israel's Brutalizing Force [message #228579 ] So, 23 Juli 2006 17:21
Prince UT  
"milou" <puce [at] zig.com> wrote in message news:9v37c29euo43k4vmnj80e4s1hv1q8pgg1u [at] 4ax.com...
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:50:50 -0700 (PDT), ChonKwoRen
> <Use-Author-Address-Header [at] [127.1]> a nymshifting troll multiposting
> from remailers
>
> <shit flushed>
>
> Go boil your head, troll.

Have your underside been tickled?

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Re: Israel's Brutalizing Force [message #228619 ] So, 23 Juli 2006 18:54
witszeroin  
ChonKwoRen wrote:
> Israeli's senseless bombing on refugees while they are trying to escape. These are act of
> barbarism. The whole world should come down hard on them.
>
> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060722 /mideast_crisis_main_060723/20060723?hub=TopStories
>
>
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The target was reported as Hezbollah strongholds and there's always
the fog of war involved. Villages were warned by air dropped leaflets
to flee beforehand(CNN tv) but you chose to see clear cut barbarism.
AP and al'Reuter reports aren't that known to be particularly unbiased.

One gets to wonder how the PRC government would react to an open Uighur
insurgency, say? Is it known to wear kid gloves when dealing with such
matters?
Re: Israel's Brutalizing Force [message #228630 ] So, 23 Juli 2006 19:42
adchin  
The world should just sit aside and let them go into full scale war, and be
done with it in a few weeks, once and for all

"ChonKwoRen" <Use-Author-Address-Header [at] [127.1]> wrote in message
news:20060723145050.81003.qmail [at] web34602.mail.mud.yahoo.com...
> Israeli's senseless bombing on refugees while they are trying to escape.
> These are act of
> barbarism. The whole world should come down hard on them.
>
Re: Israel's Brutalizing Force [message #228631 ] So, 23 Juli 2006 19:45
Frank Arthur  
The dangerous fantasy of peaceful Arab intent
By Edward Alexander

Edward Alexander


The two-front war launched against Israel by the Hamas and Hezbollah
branches of the worldwide Islamic fascist movement - the same folks who
brought us the

recent Bombay massacre, to say nothing of 9/11 and the London Underground
abattoir of last summer - has shattered many lives, and will undoubtedly
destroy

many more.

Is there any hope that it will also shatter illusions tenaciously held by
accredited experts on the Arab-Israeli "conflict" (more accurately called
the Arab

- also Iranian - war against Israel)?

For nearly 40 years, academic Middle East experts and State Department
inventors of quixotic "peace plans" have insisted that Israeli occupation of
"Arab

lands" causes Arab hatred and terror and is the "root cause" of the
conflict; end the occupation, they have always said, and all will be well.

How, then, is it that, starting the very day after its withdrawal from Gaza
last year and six years after its unilateral retreat from Lebanon, Israel is

under attack from both those places?

Would it not be closer to the truth to say that terror is caused far less by
Israeli military occupation than by the removal of that occupation?

Complete removal of Israeli forces and Jewish residents from an area
achieves nothing except to invite greater terror and aggression from people
who use

every meter of land they control not to build their own state but to destroy
an existing state.

This is why the idea - promoted by virtually every recent American (and
Israeli) administration - of two sovereign entities, Jewish and Arab,
between the

Jordan River and the Mediterranean is dangerous fantasy.

What, except historical amnesia, could have made the experts forget that it
was Arab hatred and aggression that led, in 1967, to occupation, and not

occupation that led to Arab hatred and violence? For 19 years, starting in
1948, the Arabs had full possession of the "West Bank," theirs to do with
whatever

they chose, and - as always - what they chose was not an independent
Palestinian state but incessant terrorist attacks on Israel.

Fences afford Israel only temporary and partial protection; they cannot keep
out rockets and missiles, such as have been raining down on Israeli towns in
the

south of the country ever since Hamas won the election in Gaza (a voting
result that could have come as a surprise only to the experts, including
Condoleezza

Rice). Unless Israel controls both sides of its borders, it can have no
security against invaders bent on raw murder.

Can anything positive emerge from the current carnage? Perhaps. Since
Hezbollah has over the years killed hundreds of Americans (most notably the
Marines in

Lebanon) without ever paying a price, its destruction by Israel would
constitute a major American victory; the same may be said of Hamas, whose
agents of

mass murder are already operating in America.

Perhaps the incessant nattering about "the occupation" will finally give way
to a recognition that the real "root cause" of Middle Eastern wars is a

genocidal Islamicist culture, which must be uprooted by a process roughly
akin to the denazification of Germany after World War II.

Perhaps the Israeli politicians who were so proud of their flight from
Lebanon and Gaza will conjure the ghost of Winston Churchill rebuking
arch-appeaser

Neville Chamberlain: "You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor, and you will have war."



"Raymond" <Bluerhymer [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1153656318.274344.185400 [at] m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> When Civilians Become Targets: The Israeli Destruction of Lebanon and
> Gaza
>
> The military onslaught against Lebanon has only intensified and
> expanded.
>
> By Remi Kanazi
> In the last two weeks, Israel has sent a chilling message to the
> Palestinian and Lebanese people: civilians and infrastructure are
> legitimate targets in their war of aggression. The Geneva Conventions
> have been fragrantly violated and humanitarian law has been thrown into
> the garbage can. The Israeli government would have us believe that the
> killing of civilians is the "necessary consequence" of holding one
> Israeli prisoner in Gaza and two Israeli prisoners in Lebanon.
>
> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0607/S00215.htm
>
> Placing Blame
>
> Since the taking of the two Israeli prisoners, Israel and America have
> pointed fingers at Syria and Iran for supporting Hezbollah. Yet, it's
> disingenuous to suggest that Syria and Iran are pulling the strings of
> Hezbollah. The actions of Syria and Iran are similar to American
> financially supporting Israel-both have interests in common, which
> justifies the financial support. It is not surprising that Syria and
> Iran-who out of favor with the Israel and the West-would be willing
> to fund movements that are trying to free their countries from
> occupation or defend their countries from Israel, the regional PARIHA
> state
>
> What Happens Next?
> The US, pressed by the EU and the UN, must force Israel to restrain
> itself and engage in negotiations to deescalate the situation in
> Lebanon and Gaza. The destruction of Lebanon and Gaza will not lead to
> the release of the Israeli prisoners.
>



"Raymond" <Bluerhymer [at] aol.com> wrote in message
news:1153637967.179547.309010 [at] s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> torresD wrote:
>> http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/
>
> The Jews will pay dearly for their sadistic, perverted conduct when the
> entire world turns on them with Kristallnaucht every night.
>
> American Professor Slams World's Silence on Israeli Atrocities
>
> TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- An American university professor criticized
> world countries for keeping silent on Israel's continued crimes in the
> Palestinian territories, saying that many world states keep quiet about
> Zionists' atrocities because they are fearful of the United States'
> likely reactions.
>
> Speaking in an exclusive interview with FNA, Professor of history at
> West Chester University Lawrence Davidson said, "This 'do nothing
> posture' that has always characterized most of the world's governments
> has been taken because to take action against Israel's criminal
> behavior either militarily or economically is also to take on the
> United States. Thus, to react militarily against Israel (armed by and
> allied to the US) is impossible. The Arabs tried it more than once and
> lost. The United States has made it quite plan that they would come to
> Israel's defense."
>
> "Who then, is going to try to stop Israel in this fashion," he asked.
> http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8504190418
>
> Be patient Professor. Comeupance will come to pass for these Zionist
> pigs.
>
> The terrible thing about terrorism is that ultimately it destroys those
> who practise it. Slowly but surely, as they try to extinguish life in
> others, the light within them dies
> .
> ----Terry Waite
>


<witszeroin [at] gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ChonKwoRen wrote:
>> Israeli's senseless bombing on refugees while they are trying to escape.
>> These are act of
>> barbarism. The whole world should come down hard on them.
>>
>> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060722 /mideast_crisis_main_060723/20060723?hub=TopStories
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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>
> The target was reported as Hezbollah strongholds and there's always
> the fog of war involved. Villages were warned by air dropped leaflets
> to flee beforehand(CNN tv) but you chose to see clear cut barbarism.
> AP and al'Reuter reports aren't that known to be particularly unbiased.
>
> One gets to wonder how the PRC government would react to an open Uighur
> insurgency, say? Is it known to wear kid gloves when dealing with such
> matters?
>
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