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#1: Re: Hong Kong's pro democracy disappoints =?Big5?B?tOSqeKXBpUSsow==?=

Posted on 2012-09-12 21:55:14 by Tak

On 9/10/2012 9:22 AM, ltlee1@hotmail.com wrote:
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In other words, those "speak a loud voice" might represent people's
_HEARTS_ ...

> but afraid the ballot box results would anger Beijing, this kind of
> ambivalence is present."

...but not their _VOICES_ .

Btw, I don't think "apolitical pragmatism" is quite the
right word, "political ambivalence" might be better.

Tak
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#2: Re: Hong Kong's pro democracy disappoints =?Big5?B?tOSqeKXBpUSsow==?=

Posted on 2012-09-12 22:41:43 by Tak

On 9/12/2012 5:55 PM, Tak To wrote:
> On 9/10/2012 9:22 AM, ltlee1@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> ------------------
>>
>> "Hong Kongers' apolitical pragmatism, we call as political culture,
>> hence those speak a loud voice do not represent the majority, people
>> may support western democratic plural politics in their heart,
>
> In other words, those "speak a loud voice" might represent people's
> _HEARTS_ ...
>
>> but afraid the ballot box results would anger Beijing, this kind of
>> ambivalence is present."
>
> ...but not their _VOICES_ .
>
> Btw, I don't think "apolitical pragmatism" is quite the
> right word, "political ambivalence" might be better.

On a second thought, "political schizophrenia" might be even
better.

Tak
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