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#1: CBS News: More questions about why 9-11 had to happen! Re: First 9-11 started Islamic war against the USA.... and now Arab Spring carry on the fight on 9-11.

Posted on 2012-09-13 05:49:28 by lo yeeOn

In article <04127c65-3791-4707-93a0-ef1a2fd3f6f1@k9g2000pbr.googlegroups.com>,
baldeagle <force.sin@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 13, 8:44�am, acous...@panix.com (lo yeeOn) wrote:
>> In article
><ccb8e4b7-0d24-4377-b22f-df7951461...@ou2g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>
>> baldeagle �<force....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sep 12, 7:19�pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >.> The sudden, complete, straight down at near free-fall speed
>> >.> �collapse of steel framed WTC building 7, which was not
>> >.> �touched by the planes, is the SMOKING GUN of the 9/11 conspiracy.
>>
>> >Good story ...about 9/11 conspiracy...but it is not as good
>> >as Hollywood movies.
>>
>> >Are you saying ....Mohamed Atta, Shehhi, Jarrah, Bahaji and
>> > the others were not Islamic terrorists...but they worked for
>> >the US governments ..were in fact American terrorists ?
>>
>> >Can you show proof ?
>>
>.> The following is one view.
>
>Yes... there are many views....as varied as human's ability to
>create and tell stories like Hollywood movies. BUT...there is
>only one truth.
>
>.> ..�Did the FBI tell us they had Atta's teeth or finger print or
>. > some kind of physical identification?

All I was trying to say is that the FBI had no forensic proof other
than a passport or things of that nature - things that can easily be
forged using identity theft.

Do things that can easily be forged using identity theft constitute
proof that Atta was involved? I think not.

Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. But there was no proof that he was
involved.

All I was saying is that I was not convinced of Atta's involvement.

I do not know whether he was on the plane.

I do not know whether he was an Islamic terrorist.

All the information came from the government.

Given our government's propensity to lie, to manipulate information
and to misinform the public for its own gain, I have no faith in their
incestuous investigation. For example, the chair of 9/11
investigation commission was Phillip Zelikow, a trusted associate of
Condoleezza Rice who co-wrote a book with him before she got tenure
and got her provost appointment at Stanford. Rice strongly lobbied
for the appointment. Zelikow had a lot of say on what to investigate
and what not to. And of course Condoleezza Rice was neck deep in all
the White House deceit under the G W Bush administration. So, when a
fox was made to guard the hen house, I have no faith in the outcome.

Of course, if some evidence released in the future that is persuasive,
then I am one who can change my mind about this.

>
>NO. Is this acceptable proof ?
>
>There are thousands of victims...how many of their teeth
>impressions or finger prints have been identified. Without
>such identification, does it mean that the victims were not
>among the dead!!
>This is not how you can arrive at the truth.

What you said here is totally irrelevant to what I said or what
Sabrosky said in great legnth. I can see that you didn't read or
listen to him at the site I provided the link for :)

>
>People who claim conspiracy ...must show concrete proof of
>their stories. ..without which...their stories ...will remain as
>nothing but tall stories.
>
> I repeat my question.....Are Mohamed Atta, Shehhi, Jarrah, Bahaji
>and the others were NOT Islamic terrorists...but they worked for
>the US governments ..were in fact American terrorists (or terrorists
>of some other organisations) ?

I hope you are not saying that Mossad was definitely not involved?

To me, maybe Mossad was, and maybe Mossad wasn't. But those names
(Atta, etc) hardly qualify them to be the perpetrators of 9/11 by
themselves.

Furthermore, even if they were flying the planes into the WTC
buildings, what is the proof that the planes were responsible for the
demolition of the buildings that went down in free fall?

Also, those guys, no matter who they were, even if they were Islamic
terrorists, hardly possessed the wherewithal to stop NORAD from
foiling their plan.

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta told of Vice President Dick
Cheney's repeated instruction to soldiers at the White House basement
warroom to have NORAD to stand down.

I can't repeat everything that was on that website that is trying to
debunk the official version of 9/11. But the points you raised are
rather fuzzy and irrelevant, I am sorry to say.

And what is most interesting is that on the latest anniversary of the
attack, CBS posted a finding from investigative reporter Eichenwald
raising more questions as to why it had to happen. To quote Hugo
Chavez, our knowledge about 9/11 remains incomplete, largely due to
the government's insistence of its own tainted view. For example, the
Colorado academic Ward Churchill was hounded out of his fully tenured
job. (He won a jury trial that he had been wrongfully fired, but the
judge refused to order him rehired [see the wikipedia]. Higher courts
apparently also followed the politically correct line of considering
him a persona non grata [ibid] - so much for judicial independence.)

lo yeeOn

September 11, 2012 8:11 AM

NY Times reporter: Bush White House didn't listen to 9/11 warnings

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57510158/ny-times-reporter-bush-white-house-didnt-listen-to-9-11-warnings/

(CBS News) Eleven years after the 9/11 attacks, there is new
information on what the George W. Bush administration knew about
al-Qaeda's plans.

We learned after 9/11 that a presidential briefing paper in August
2001 was headlined "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."

Special section: 9/11 Eleven Years Later

But Tuesday in the New York Times, investigative reporter Kurt
Eichenwald says the White House received ominous warnings as early as
May 2001.

CBS News spoke with Eichenwald Monday. He said, "What I've been able
to see are the presidential daily briefs before August 6 of 2001. And
they're horrific, and they are - our reports are 'an attack is
coming,' 'there are going to be mass casualties.' The worst of them,
the Pentagon, the neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, as the CIA was
coming in saying, 'al-Qaeda's going to attack,' said, 'Oh, this is
just a false flag operation. Bin laden is trying to take our attention
off of the real threat, Iraq.' And so there are presidential daily
briefs that are literally saying, 'No they're wrong, this isn't fake,
it's real.'"

"CBS This Morning" co-host Norah O'Donnell said, "Then when a lot of
people hear this, aren't they going to say, 'This is another example
of where, not just the Bush administration, but our intelligence
community dropped the ball. They failed to heed the warnings that were
in a number of these (documents) that went all the way up to the
president of the United States.'"

Eichenwald replied, "Actually, the counterterrorist center of the CIA
did a spectacular job, and that's what really comes down. You know, in
the aftermath, the White House and others said, 'Well they didn't tell
us enough.' No, they told them everything they needed to know to go on
a full alert and the White House didn't do it."

Eichenwald has stumbled onto a well-worn path, according to CBS News
senior correspondent John Miller, former FBI deputy director and
assistant director of National Intelligence, said on "CBS This
Morning."

"We knew some of that," Miller said. "What he has added is the
granularity of the actual memos and some of the actual words that were
there in front of the White House and the National Security team. But,
you know, Richard Clark, who is the national security advisor for
terrorism, in his book, he said all the lights were blinking red and
we were pushing this in front of Condi Rice every day and it was hard
to get any priority on this. In George Tenet's book, he details the
briefings they were given, so some of this we knew, and there's some
of it in terms of the level of detail we didn't know."

But is al-Qaeda still a threat? Miller said the central command of
al-Qaeda is "all but dead," but you "have to keep an eye on it." He
explained, "It's still capable of being lethal on a small scale. What
we have to worry about is not al-Qaeda central command. It's
al-Qaeda-ism, which is the way they have marshaled the internet to
find followers they have never met who can also do things that are
lethal through this kind of inspiration."

To watch Eichenwald's interview and for more with Miller, click on the
video in the player above.

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George Orwell: "In A Time Of Universal Deceit, Telling The Truth
Becomes A Revolutionary Act"

ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER, PHILOSOPHER: "All Truth Passes Through Three
stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And
Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident"

http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2010/08/real-perpetrators-of-9-11-us-military.html

Sunday, August 29, 2010

The REAL Perpetrators Of 9-11: The US Military KNOWS Israel Did 9-11!

We are presently watching a rising hatred of Muslims in the United
States of America. I and others have been putting up articles of real
information that shows clearly that this hatred is totally unfounded
and absolutely wrong. Americans are being led down this path of
hatred purposely by the Zionist Jews in America that want the
Americans whipped into such a high state of absolute hatred for Islam
that the gullible Americans will blindly support Israel's newest lust
for war against its Muslim neighbouring states! That is the real
reason for this hatred.


Many Americans are believing the BS that Muslims are evil due to the
Zionist Jewish controlled media continuing to perpetrate the lie that
the attacks of 9-11 were done by "19 A-rabs using box cutters" to
seize the planes and fly them into the buildings. Logical and
rational people are finally waking up to the real truth that the
attacks were not done by Arabs as the sick media says, but by Israel
with its Mossad and Sayanim operatives in the United States!


Again, to reawaken the American public and the people around the world
to the perpetrators of the 9-11 attacks being Israel and their agents
in America itself, I turn again to a video that was released back in
March, shortly after Dr. Alan Sabrosky went on air with Mark Glenn at
www.theuglytruth.wordpress.com/podcast, and stated clearly that it was
Israel that did 9-11!

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The Liberty Hour - with Dr. Alan Sabrosky

One of the brightest minds on the planet, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, comes on
board along with co-host Phil Tourney to discuss Dr. Sabrsky's most
recent article "The Dark Face of Jewish Nationalism and the bombsell
admission that Sabrosky is informing high-level military officers that
Israel carried out the terror attacks of September 11, 2001.

http://theulytruth.podbean.com/2010/03/14/the-ugly-podcast-march-15-2010/

Again, to reawaken the American public and the people around the world
to the perpetrators of the 9-11 attacks being Israel and their agents
in America itself, I turn again to a video that was released back in
March, shortly after Dr. Alan Sabrosky went on air with Mark Glenn at
www.theuglytruth.wordpress.com/podcast, and stated clearly that it was
Israel that did 9-11!

"Why the military knows?" (according to Dr. Alan Sabrosky)

In September 2000, The project for the New American Century (PNAC)
published a document entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses. It
called for a "new Pearl Harbor". From pp.50-51:

A transformation strategy that solely pursued capabilities for
projecting force from the United States, for example, and sacrificed
forward basing and presence, would be at odds with larger American
policy goals and would trouble American allies.

Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings
revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor.

This can be found a slide displayed at 7:30 of the 9:59 long video
clip at the site.

One of the signatories of the PNAC document that called for a "new
Pearl Harbor" was Rabbi Dov Zakheim. From 1987-2001, Zakheim was CEO
of SPC International, a subsidiary of System Planning Corporation
which is the leader in the field of remote control aircraft. Its
Flight Termination System (FTS) is described as a fully redundant
turnkey range safety and test system for remote control and flight
termination of airborne test vehicles.

Alan Sabrosky recalled a Danish building demolition expert telling
him, after viewing a video that showed clearly the free fall of WTC-7.

"Alan, you understand that if one of the WTC building was wired for
demolition, then all of them were."

Zakheim was sworn in as Pentagon Comptroller on May 4, 2001. For more
than a year, it had been no secret that the Pentagon's accounting
systems were in total disarray.

The fraudsters would loot a proportion (sic) of $2.3 trillion, with
the "terror attack" destroying the money trail and serving as casus
belli for several regime change abroad.

Also sworn in at the Pentagon in May 2001, as Secretary of the Army,
was Thomas E. White, who is linked to the Enron accounting fraud.

It wasn't Muslims who provided two hours' advance warning of an attack
on the World Trade Center via an instant messaging company based in
Herzliya; it was Israelis.

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26/09/2001

Odigo says workers were warned of attack

By Yuval Dror(spelling?)

Follow Haaretz.com on twitter!

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers
received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September
11, predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been
cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the
FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting
the attack.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

It wasn't Muslims who received advance warning of the London 7/7
attacks; it was Benjamin Netanyahu and the Mossad.

Carl Cameron, Fox News correspondent:

Since September 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or
detained either under the new patriot anti-terrorism law, or for
immigration violations. A handful of active Israeli military were
among those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the
detainees also failed polygraph questions. when asked about alleged
surveillance activities against and in the United States.

There were continuing moments of alarm. A panel truck with a painting
of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was stopped near the
temporary command post. It proved to be rented to a group of ethnic
Middle Eastern people who did not speak English. Fearing that it
might be a truck bomb, the NYPD immediately evacuated the area, called
out the bomb squad, and detained the occupants until . . .

CNN's Deborah Feverick:

". , ,

There were two or three men who were in the van that was pulled over.
It is not clear why the van was pulled over, but when it was, law
enforcers found tons of explosives inside of the van."

On George Washington Bridge

American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George
Washington Bridge connecting New York and New JErsey. The van, packed
with explosives,...

The Israeli DEA Groups

Virtually all of the scores of individuals questioned or detained by
the DEA and other federal and local law enforcement authorities were
citizens of the State of Israel. They were generally organized in
groups of 8 to 10 people, with a single team leader (the "Israeli DEA
Groups"). They usually worked, individually or in pairs, carrying
makeshift art portfolios. They visited scores of DEA offices,
laboratories and houses or apartments, ostensibly to offer or show the
paintings or prints in the portfolios for sale or promotion to DEA
personnel.

It wasn't Muslims who were caught and arrested inside the Mexican
Congress chamber on October 10, 2oo1 in possession of guns, grenades,
dynamite, detonators and wiring while posing as "press
photographers"... It wasn't Muslims who were convicted and jailed for
six months in 2004 for fraudulently attempting to obtain a New Zealand
passport in the name of a tetraplegic man...

Google: 9/11 for reality deniers or:

it wasn't muslims

...for much more information regarding who did 9/11.

Interview of Dr. Alan Sabrosky c/o Mark Glenn.

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9/11 Commission Director: Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel

by Emad Mekay

Iraq under Saddam Hussein did not pose a threat to the United States
but it did to Israel, which is one reason why Washington invaded the
Arab country, according to a speech made by a member of a top-level
White House intelligence group.

JPS (or IPS) uncovered the remarks given by Philip Zelikow who

. . .

[did Zelikow coauthored a book with Condi? Yes, he did.]



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