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#1: Re: Instead of condemning China, you should praise the "CCP

Posted on 2012-09-13 02:28:48 by Satish

On Sep 12, 12:25=C2=A0pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Instead of condemning China, you should praise the "CCP dictatorship"
> for doing a wonderful job for its people. =C2=A0You should also hope or
> wish the Indian government can do just as well for the people of India.


The CCP Mandarins are dragging PRC down the same slippery path that
was forced upon Japan by the Tojo regime and for the same reason - its
unabashed expansionism.


Beijing regime's lust for raw materials has fueled its colonial
agenda. In this, it is behaving exactly as the Tojo regime had during
the WW II era.

The Pacific nations are all aware that imperialist China has come to
believe like rstx that "Today, it's all about military power, the only
thing counts." In 1979, the CCP dictatorship under Deng Xiaoping's
helmsmanship caused the death of nearly 150,000 human soldiers just to
"teach Vietnam a lesson". It is another matter that a significant
proportion of the dead were Chinese soldiers. But that mattered very
little to lull the blood-lust of the CCP dictatorship in Beijing.


In fact, China's small neighbors thank USA for the fact that China
hasn't dared since 1979 to launch a bloody invasion to teach any of
its small neighbors a lesson. As far as the Pacific nations are
concerned, it is the USA that is providing a shield against the blood
lust of the CCP dictatorship.


As far as the Pacific countries (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, the
Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, New
Zealand etc.) are concerned, it is the CCP dictatorship in Beijing
that is the greatest menace to world peace.



The Munich agreement gave in to Nazi regime's demand for Sudetenland.
But this only whetted the Nazi regime's addiction to aggrandizement.
The Nazi regime went on to lay claims on Austria and then to Poland
and then to Russia and France and then to the whole world.

The Beijing bandit regime's imperialist agenda is expanding
exponentially. Now it is disputing Japan's sovereignty over Okinawa on
the basis of Okinawa's tributary relationship with China some 500
years ago. The CCP dictatorship in Beijing is becoming as much a
menace to world peace as the Tojo regime and the Hitler regime were in
their days:

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http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/17-07-2012/121658-china_territorial_cla=
ims-0/

China has territorial claims to nearly 20 countries

17.07.2012

Chinese leader Mao Zedong not only built a strong country but also
outlined a global goal: "We must conquer the globe where we will
create a powerful state." Today, China has territorial claims to all
its neighbors. Naturally, the U.S. is dreaming of becoming a mediator
in resolving disputes in the region. But it seems that Beijing
absolutely does not care about their opinion.

Burma, Laos, Northern India, Vietnam, Nepal, Bhutan, Thailand,
Malaysia, Singapore, the Ryukyu Islands, 300 islands of the South
China, East China and Yellow Seas, as well as Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia,
Taiwan, South Kazakhstan, the Afghan province of Bahdashan,
Transbaikalia and the Far East to South Okhotsk - here is the complete
list of areas that, according to Zedong, were lost due to the fall of
the Qing empire. All of these countries and regions combined exceed
the territory of modern China. Not all complaints are voiced by the
Government of China in the international arena, but within the country
the imperialist ambitions have not been lost, but rather, are actively
promoted.

The PRC authorities talk out loud only about the areas that, at least
theoretically, can be taken away from Japan and Korea. Tokyo is
regularly frustrated not only because of the travel of the Russian
leaders to the Kuril Islands, but also about the Chinese ships freely
entering the disputed Senkaku Islands waters. Beijing believes that
the Islands are called Diaoyu, and they belonged to China, but the
malicious Japanese tricked the U.S. into giving them to Japan because
after World War II the uninhabited archipelago was in the US
jurisdiction.

Significant reserves of natural gas were found on the islands. For the
growing industry of China and stagnant Japan it is more than a serious
argument in favor of the struggle for the archipelago, no matter what
it is called. Not to mention the fish that is found there in large
quantities. To date, the only agreement the parties have reached in
the negotiations is on the joint development of oil fields. In
addition, if the Japanese behave more or less decently, the Chinese
are regularly caught for illegal fishing in the area.

Any territorial dispute, but rather, its resolution, is a serious
precedent. If China's claim in respect of at least one territory from
the list of the "lost" is satisfied, the Chinese machine would be
unstoppable. Despite the fact that the Chinese are very pleased to
partner with Russia and have always supported Russia in the UN
Security Council, in person, on the sidelines, its diplomats
supposedly jokingly hint to their Russian colleagues: you must
understand that soon you will have to share the Far East? China has
more than a billion people, while Russia's vast territory barely has
150 million.

These dangerous trends - demographic, and as a result, geopolitical -
must sound scary to the Russian government, but so far it seems that
it is happy with the fact that Beijing makes territorial claims only
to Seoul and Tokyo. In 2005 Russia had already given China a bounty in
the form of 337 square kilometers of land in the area of =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=
Big Island
(upper Argun River in the Chita region) and two sites in the vicinity
of the islands Tarabarov and Big Ussuri near the confluence of the
Amur and Ussuri.

However, none of the leaders of the military departments of ASEAN that
includes all debating countries agree to recognize, for example, the
fact that Diaoyu belongs to Japan. Instead, the defense ministers of
Vietnam, Indonesia, Australia, Thailand and Singapore urged the
Japanese authorities to proceed with caution and within the framework
of the international law. These countries certainly do not need a
resolution to the dispute because in that case their territory will be
separated from China only by perseverance of the latter.

They are silent about the "Iodo island" (the Chinese version is
Suenchzhao. - Ed) in the East China Sea. The sneaky Chinese took the
principle of dividing the Arctic as an example and now claim that the
underwater ridge of this tiny piece of land is under close control of
the Chinese. Since the Iodo is closer to Korea, in 2003 the Koreans
built an uninhabitable marine research station there. From the
standpoint of the international law, this rock in general should not
be the subject of a debate.

In any case, the controversy continues, Japan and South Korea remain
to be supported by their all-time ally - the United States. For the
US, the unification of Southeast Asian Nations is a chance to save
their own economy, because in that case the World Trade Center will
move there, where currently there are no transnational corporations in
the amount sufficient for the U.S.

The success of the White House in the region does not depend on the
strength that America loves to show any chance it has, but rather,
diplomacy, as the countries of ASEAN and Asia-Pacific region do not
trust each other or anyone outside the regional boundaries. However,
Washington is trusted here because of the support of Seoul and Tokyo.
However, China has already pushed Japan out of the ranks of the
largest economies in the world, and the structure of the region is no
longer formed on spatial basis.

Therefore, territorial claims of China, and not Russia, India or, for
example, Australia are so important for Washington. Beijing is the
only capital of the world, ready to use force in the struggle for the
sake of expansion. During the last ten years, while America was
blowing up its financial bubble, China has not only developed the
industry, but also equipped its area of =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Binterest with mil=
itary
equipment. China has placed 38 new diesel and nuclear submarines in
the region, purchased four destroyers of class "Modern" from Russia
and built another dozen on its own, and has launched a network of
ground-based ballistic missiles to destroy naval targets.

Only one other country has done this before - the Soviet Union during
the "Cold War". It is no wonder that the Americans are very concerned
with the regular quarrels between China and its major allies.
Construction of a naval base on Hainan Island does not add confidence
to the U.S. The proximity to the Malacca Strait poses a threat to the
smooth supply of Washington's main allies in the region - Japan, South
Korea and Taiwan - this is the way the US sees the situation. The
American senators have already decided that such behavior is a threat
to Beijing's regional peace and stability, economic development and
even "food security". The international community is well aware what
usually follows such wording.

Ilona Raskolnikova

Pravda.Ru

*******************

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/26/inside-china-436801701/?pag=
e=3Dall#pagebreak


Threat against =E2=80=98little countries=E2=80=99
By Miles Yu
mmilesyu@gmail.com


China=E2=80=99s official communist newspaper, the Global Times, published a
chilling editorial warning several =E2=80=9Clittle countries=E2=80=9D that =
are
disputing China=E2=80=99s maritime claims in the South China Sea, notably t=
he
Philippines and Vietnam, to =E2=80=9Cget ready to hear the sound of gunfire=
.=E2=80=9D


Headlined =E2=80=9CChina Cannot Resort Only to Negotiations Over Maritime
Conflicts, We Must Kill One to Deter One Hundred If Necessary,=E2=80=9D the
editorial published Tuesday asked, in a tone of condescension, where
these =E2=80=9Clittle neighboring countries=E2=80=9D got the nerve to chall=
enge China.
It called such challenges an =E2=80=9Copportunistic strategic offensive
launched by little countries against a big country.=E2=80=9D


The newspaper further threatened that the game these countries play
against China would not be easy to win because =E2=80=9CChina possesses the
force to end such game anytime.=E2=80=9D


The report said any fear of a naval war is unnecessary because the
Chinese public had been psychologically getting used to such a naval
conflagration in recent years.


According to the newspaper, the root cause of China=E2=80=99s trouble with
these =E2=80=9Clittle countries=E2=80=9D is the United States. =E2=80=9CAt =
present various
disputants behave with imperial swagger [against China],=E2=80=9D the
commentary said, =E2=80=9Cas if with the support from the United States, th=
ey
all had the force and capabilities to subjugate China.=E2=80=9D


The newspaper used the phrase =E2=80=9Cbodies of waters in East Asia=E2=80=
=9D to
include areas other than the South China Sea where China has
territorial disputes =E2=80=94 a clear reference to South Korea and Japan.


Since April 2010, China began deliberately sending regular fishing
fleets accompanied by official government escort ships to disputed
areas of the Spratly=E2=80=99s Island, Senkaku islands, the Korean littoral
area and other murky waters.


These China fishing and escort ships routinely clash with other
nations=E2=80=99 naval patrol ships, including incidents with the Philippin=
e
navy, the South Korean navy and the Japanese coastal patrol vessels
just within the past week, dramatically escalating tensions with
several =E2=80=9Clittle countries.=E2=80=9D


Underground Great Wall


The U.S. government this week announced that it had dismantled and
destroyed the last and the largest Cold War-era nuclear weapon, the
B53 gravity bomb, in Amarillo, Texas.


Meanwhile, China is increasing its stockpile of nuclear weapons under
the rubric of a mammoth project called the Underground Great Wall that
includes a 3,000-mile-long subterranean tunnel system used to store
and operate the many thousands of China=E2=80=99s nuclear-carrying missiles=
.
The system is under the direct supervision of China=E2=80=99s strategic
missile forces known as the Second Artillery Corps.


First reported by the Chinese state television in March 2008 and
confirmed by the Chinese military a year later, the Underground Great
Wall runs several hundred feet below the ground, said James Holmes of
the U.S. Naval War College.


Mr. Holmes wrote in the Japanese-based electronic journal the Diplomat
in August that =E2=80=9Cthe very scale of the underground network opens up =
new
vistas for Chinese nuclear strategy.=E2=80=9D


On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal quoted former Pentagon nuclear
weapons specialist Philip Karber as fundamentally challenging the
West=E2=80=99s conventional assumption about the size of China=E2=80=99s nu=
clear
stockpile, officially estimated to include several hundred warheads.


Mr. Karber said gauging the size of China=E2=80=99s nuclear arsenal is
difficult, but the Wall Street Journal article urged an immediate
reconsideration of the underestimated arsenal because =E2=80=9Cthe alternat=
ive
is for China, steeped in a 2,500 year military tradition of
concealment, deception and surprise, to announce =E2=80=94 at a time and in=
a
manner of its choosing =E2=80=94 its supremacy in a field that we have
foolishly abandoned to our dreams.=E2=80=9D

soc.culture.china, soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.malaysia,
soc.culture.filipino, soc.culture.vietnamese
Anti-terrorism law proposed


China announced Monday that it would enact a sweeping law to combat
what the communist state would define as =E2=80=9Cterrorists=E2=80=9D or =
=E2=80=9Cterrorist
acts.=E2=80=9D These acts include creating public disorder and social panic=
,
causing public property damage and threatening government agencies.
The law would target international organizations and all others that
abet and finance such =E2=80=9Cterrorists=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cterrorist a=
cts.=E2=80=9D


Human rights activists and thousands of netizens immediately reacted
with anger and protest. Li Tiantian, a Shanghai-based human rights
lawyer, was quoted by overseas Chinese news media as saying: =E2=80=9CThis =
law
aims to protect the power structure of the state, to guarantee the
security, stability and power of the government. It is the same as
calling all actions jeopardizing the regime=E2=80=99s rule terrorism,
deserving suppression.=E2=80=9D

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#2: Re: This is the total summation of Satish's anti-China posts in his

Posted on 2012-09-13 02:29:58 by Satish

On Sep 12, 12:16=A0pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is the total summation of Satish's anti-China posts in his own
> words
>
> > The idea of CCP dictatorship making it not just illegal
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> > but immoral as well to have an opinion different than the
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> You are jealous of China's success? =A0Wow!!! wow!! wow!!!
> Now, it's an eye-opener!!!!
> Well, like I said earlier, you ARE a psychopath!!! =A0You should be
> locked in an insane asylum!!!!!
>
> > CCP approved one is totally repugnant.
>
> ----------------------------------------


Let's see what has got you so very angry and foaming in the mouth.

You have quoted the following from my post, "The idea of CCP
dictatorship making it not just illegal but immoral as well to have
an opinion different than the CCP approved one is totally
repugnant."

Yes, it is indeed repugnant rstx. Your indignation and outrage make
absolutely no sense. You are angry only because you have been
brainwashed by the CCP.

That is why you think that the CCP is entitled to make it illegal and
immoral for anyone to have an opinion different than the one it
dictates.

It is a pity that you have chosen to hew the line of the totalitarian
CCP in preference to the one under democracy in your country of
residence (USA).

Your murderous rage at any criticism of the CCP dictatorship in
Beijing shows you up to be totally off your rocker and deep into
cuckooland.


Yes, do consult your shrink. You have a lot of problems stemming from
reading comprehension issues as well from your insanity.


And when on earth was it not your turn rstx? Haven't you been trying
to end the discussion in each and every thread by editing the subject
line with inane abuses and commentaries?

Your idea of a discussion or a debate is no different than that of the
CCP dictatorship which deems it illegal and immoral for anyone to have
an opinion different than the one it dictates.

It is a pity that you have chosen to embrace the line of the CCP
dictatorship in preference for the norms under democracy in your
country of residence (USA).

In fact, you are so mad that you barge upon a random thread to make
your asinine post. Just look at this thread. What relevance does it
have to your incoherent ramblings?

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#3: Re: CBS News: More questions about why 9-11 had to happen! Re: First

Posted on 2012-09-13 09:34:51 by Jan

On a sunny day (Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:48:15 -0700 (PDT)) it happened baldeagle
<force.sin@gmail.com> wrote in
<16798f17-bc01-4903-89f2-ec336708c571@ud9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>:

>
>it is a fact....that the USA is pulling out its naval forces
>(including aircraft carriers) from the middle East.

They just send two warships to Libia.
One has arrived.


>it is a fact ,,,that Obama will refocus its military strength in the
>Pacific.
>it is a fact.....that the USA has not won the war against Islam.

>It is a fact...that many Hollywood style stories were created...and
>there is absolutely NO proof that the stories were true.

Realized this week that for many TV is on all the time, spitting out brain wash.
There is never even one second of silence for 'reflection',
did you notice that? Empty spaces filled up with commercials,
telling people what to buy, what to think, how to behave,
what to wear, where to go, etc etc.
The one who controls those media is really the big puppet master.

Even in Hollywood's star-wars, the green Jedi was a puppet.

In ancient times Caesar, in the Roman empire, already knew this:
Give the people bread and games.
He had no TV yet, but slaves killing each other in the arena
was a big attraction for the masses.

These days the control of the masses is much more sophisticated.

In the old days Rome was taken by barbarians in the end, in spite of
the Romans having superior technology and political system, better equiped army.
The Romans alienated there allies, very much the same way 0bama killed
his allies in Egypt.
So should we be surprised if those countries hit back?
Also it is possible it was a CIA made attack for some reason to have to kill
'Al Qaida' or whatever they want to bomb next,
close to Syria those warships, then for sure they will tell the tale
that the militants fled to Syria blah blah, bomb them there blah blah.
All possible.
0bama is a confused black head [of state even], hard to tell the next booboo he will make,
could trip over the wire to the red button :-)



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