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#1: Re: Canada Now Demands $800,000 ..the USA is selling EB5 investment

Posted on 2012-05-09 05:19:19 by baldeagle

On May 9, 3:20=C2=A0pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/05/2012 6:12 PM, baldeagle wrote:
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> > On May 8, 5:48 am, RichAsianKid<RichAsian...@hotmail.com> =C2=A0wrote:
> >> On 06/05/2012 6:37 PM, baldeagle wrote:
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> >>> On May 7, 6:16 am, RichAsianKid<RichAsian...@hotmail.com> =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0wrote:
> >>>> On 01/05/2012 9:52 PM, baldeagle wrote:
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> >>>>> On May 2, 8:35 am, RichAsianKid<RichAsian...@hotmail.com> =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> >>>>>> On 30/04/2012 9:45 PM, baldeagle wrote:
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> >>>>>>> On May 1, 9:03 am, RichAsianKid<RichAsian...@hotmail.com> =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 30/04/2012 12:33 AM, baldeagle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 9:10 am, RichAsianKid<RichAsian...@hotmail.com> =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 20/04/2012 8:51 PM, baldeagle wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Again, even South Korea's =
selling its citizenship $5M US while
> >>>>>>>>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0America's now worth a mere=
10%?
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> >>>>>>>>>> Question now: how much is China worth?
>
> >>>>>>>>> If you meant China's citizenship or PR...it depends.
>
> >>>>>>>>> I have known...China has given permanent resident
> >>>>>>>>> (equal to the Green Card) absolutely free of charge
> >>>>>>>>> to citizens from third world nations...(eg. from Africa and
> >>>>>>>>> Indonesia)....but at the same time, many Singaporeans
> >>>>>>>>> were given only multiple-entry visas although they have
> >>>>>>>>> invested =C2=A0hundreds of millions in China.
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> >>>>>>>>>> Can it even be sold?
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> >>>>>>>>> If you are talking about selling China....many Chinese
> >>>>>>>>> have sold China to the CIA for less than $100 a month...
> >>>>>>>>> They are selling China at whatever amount they could
> >>>>>>>>> get.
> >>>>>>>>> To other more patriotic Chinese...China is not for sales...
> >>>>>>>>> they will defend China with their lives.
>
> >>>>>>>> It doesn't take "patriotism" but rather just common sense to und=
erstand
> >>>>>>>> no nation belongs to the world. If nationhood or identity is suc=
h
> >>>>>>>> anachronism why are there more and more nations post-WWII rather=
than
> >>>>>>>> fewer and fewer? Identity matters and will continue to matter fo=
r a long
> >>>>>>>> time no matter how much utopian and egalitarian propaganda is th=
rown
> >>>>>>>> against human nature. I against my brother, I and my brother aga=
inst our
> >>>>>>>> cousin, I and my cousin against the world.
>
> >>>>>>> Since the dawn of history, man has been claiming
> >>>>>>> their little corners (of earth) as theirs...Many have
> >>>>>>> declare that god has given the piece of land to them.
> >>>>>>> Endless wars had been fought and millions had been
> >>>>>>> killed...over the sovereign rights to the land.
> >>>>>>> This struggle will continue ...until the end of the world
> >>>>>>> for man.
>
> >>>>>>>> As for China - it does not have to voluntarily commit the same
> >>>>>>>> ideological suicide as the West - not just assuming it has spine=
or just
> >>>>>>>> being strong enough - but as mere follower. And that's where Chi=
na will
> >>>>>>>> be if it follows the garden path of equality or democracy or wha=
t not.
> >>>>>>>> At least the West had an excuse when reconstructing the world ha=
lf
> >>>>>>>> century ago. Modern China has no excuse to follow a failed exper=
iment.
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> >>>>>>> Who say China is following the path of 'democracy' (as
> >>>>>>> defined by the West) ?
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> >>>>>>> I believe....the Chinese leaders have been dutifully following
> >>>>>>> Teng Xiao Ping's two simple guidelines:-
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> >>>>>>> =E2=80=9CIt doesn't matter if a cat is black or white,
> >>>>>>> so long as it catches mice, it is a good cat=E2=80=9D =C2=A0and
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> >>>>>>> (to ensure stability and orderly leader successions)
> >>>>>>> his guideline is: "Institutions and laws must not change
> >>>>>>> whenever the leadership changes, or whenever
> >>>>>>> the leaders change their views or shift their focus."
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> >>>>>>> In these ways, China has NOT been following
> >>>>>>> the path of democracy. China is following her
> >>>>>>> own path(=E9=81=93)...I must say...a very successful path.
>
> >>>>>> This post-Darwin notion is true
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> >>>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"It doesn't matter if a cat is black or=
white,
> >>>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0so long as it catches mice, it is a goo=
d cat"
>
> >>>>>> but then you're suddenly suggesting rule of law rather than rule o=
f men?
>
> >>>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"(to ensure stability and orderly leade=
r successions)
> >>>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0his guideline is: 'Institutions and law=
s must not change
> >>>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0whenever the leadership changes, or whe=
never
> >>>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the leaders change their views or shift=
their focus.'"
>
> >>>>> By saying this, was Teng XioaPing suggesting china
> >>>>> must follow the West in the rule of law ...or he is saying
> >>>>> institutions and laws must not change directions like the
> >>>>> wind (popularity)....
>
> >>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think, he (Teng) was more concern ab=
out the succession
> >>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0of leadership.. and that China must ap=
point only good
> >>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =C2=A0 =C2=A0and able leaders =C2=A0to rule China.
>
> >>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0To put it the same Darwinian vein again, you agree it=
's not
> >>> .> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 who's right that wins; it's the winner who's right.
>
> >>> The Darwin evolution...is not about being right or being
> >>> wrong.
> >>> It is about the ability to change ..the ability to adopt
> >>> to the changing environment. Those who can... survived
> >>> and those who can't...perished.
>
> >> Isn't democracy just another ponderous elephant? (In more down-to-eart=
h
> >> way, ahem, where ng posters can understand, isn't it more like an
> >> S-class Mercedes vs even a lowly but swift Lotus Elise?)
>
> >> Will 50 years of human make-believe be sufficient to eliminate 50,000
> >> years of evolution?
>
.> > Yes. Democracy (US style) will failed like it did in Greece
.> > long ago. In fact, democracy is already unraveling in
.> > the USA.
>
> > Teng XiaoPing's teaching ...is NOT about democracy...
> > it is about "how to govern China"..it is about how to
> > change China...it is how to appoint leaders (with proven
> > ability) to govern China...to ensure continued success.
>
.> > Teng's teaching...on how to change China for the better...
.> > is in line with Darwin evolution. For this reason,
.> > China will have a better chance of success than
.> > US democracy.
>
.> Again it doesn't concern the "system"; it's outcome.

Yes...it is the outcome that counts.

But in most thing in our society, the process or system
would determine the outcome.
In this sense, Democracy is a process...a system of
governance chosen by certain countries. Because of
its inability to adapt to changes in human society..
it is destined to fail...going the way of the dinosaur.
The Chinese, for five thousands years...have shown
the uncanny ability to adapt and to adopt...making
critical changes demanded by changes in nature and
in man's own environment. For this reason... China
will have no problem surviving the challenges of evolution.


>
> I must also reiterate and add especially given numbers even in
> "democracy" China has advantage in the long run.
>
> If you're pro-China there's nothing you should fear.
>
> It's only Darwin. ;)

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#2: 进不来?

Posted on 2012-05-10 21:31:04 by "wangli"



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