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#1: Re: Tibetan monks in Dharamsala release report on self-immolations

Posted on 2012-09-12 11:36:25 by Peter

On 9/12/2012 11:33 AM, Peter Terpstra wrote:
> Justice have today released a new report on the self-immolations in
> Tibet, available for download here >>

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#2: Re: English 2012: Word of the year?

Posted on 2012-09-12 14:46:32 by RichAsianKid

On 12/09/2012 11:05 AM, Albert K. Fung wrote:
> RichAsianKid:
>> One humble poster would have thought that an esteemed poster let alone
>> America given the latter's impression would have taken Lao Tzu's
>> aphorism to heart to mind their own business:
>> "Go to the people. Learn from them. Live with them. Start with what they
>> know. Build with what they have. The best of leaders when the job is
>> done, when the task is accomplished, the people will say we have done it
>> ourselves."
>> It appears an all-encompassing American empire is one last item ordinary
>> Americans would desire when parents demur at prospects of sacrificing a
>> son in Iraq and if lucky to only return to a homeland already invaded
>> and where job aspects are ever-increasingly bleak. Middle Americans ask
>> themselves, why is an utopian empire even worth pursuing defending
>> foreign soils for the world while unable to protect if not downright
>> forfeiting its own?
>> And no, the whole notion of American exceptionalism has always been how
>> it led by example and leads by example. It's that sacred shining beacon
>> on the hill and light that draws; and where the only inconvenient
>> barrier stopping the whole wide world from embracing Americanism is only
>> when circumstances were right when these downtrodden people could only
>> be miraculously freed from those wicked evil oppressors. Not because
>> America is strong but rather because America is _the_ teleological
>> endpoint. By accepting America as now merely like the rest - that "might
>> makes right" - America is thus now not so unassailable, had lost an
>> all-important moral high ground, and yes, is now embarking on its first
>> step to being dethroned being dependent on circumstances which will
>> wispishly change.
>> Homer Simpson's duh should be more accurately amended as a "nah". For
>> history never ends nor ever ended. It merely repeats itself. ;)
> AKF:
>> Both Han Feizi and Sunzi ....
>> Just like the American founders, were devoted and respectful
>> students of Laozi. One was an influential thinker of China's
>> Legal school. While the other was a brilliant military stra-
>> tegist, highly skilled in the art of warfare. On recommendat
>> -ion of his brilliant and trusted lieutenants - after losing
>> battles after battles - General Washington, the Commander of
>> the Continental Army, read the works of the three gentlemen.
>> He couldn't put them down. Afterwards, he completely revamp-
>> ed his war plan.
>> And adopted Laozi's wu wei strategy. The rest, was history.
>> Leading the ragtag army of a backwater country, General Wash
>> -ington, now a convert of Laozi, did the unthinkable - he de
>> -feated the world's hyperpower, the reigning hegemony of his
>> time - the mighty British Empire.
>> After he became president, he applied wu wei to politics and
>> accomplished a great deal in building his new country.
>> To the lesser minds, of course, Laozi's wise words are aphor
>> -ism to do nothing. Han Feizi, Sunzi and General Washington,
>> OTOH, knew better. They heeded his admonition, the paradoxic
>> -al "wu wei er wu bu wei".
>> And the Empire of Liberty was born .... :)
>> PS: The American Empire rules the world, by not ruling - per
>> the wise admonition of Laozi. As evidence of its success
>> - even a two bit country like China can claim that she's
>> now a super power. Albeit with the per capital income of
>> an African country.
>> And when the Empire's persuasive 7th Fleet knocks on her
>> door, there's no question that she will answer, fast. :)
> RichAsianKid:
>> To this humble poster, if verifiable - but please don't worry especially
>> if not - modern neoconservative America of empire is therefore not meant
>> to be.
>> Yet Israelites or Jews may be one most esteemed poster's evolved
>> paradigm - quite sadly not quite for WASPs.
>> Well? ;)
> Jews and Israelites ....
> Are not one and the same. Hence the esteemed netter's assert
> -ion is vague and ambiguous. Just like the Chinese Jews form
> a global diaspora that is influential. An empire, it is not.
> The American Empire, is influential in almost all spheres of
> human endeavors.
> Such influence, is backed by unrivaled, unchallenged power.
> Its military has no equal in human history. In peace time it
> acts as a world constabulary - with global reaches anywhere,
> anytime. Per Laozi's implorations, its civilian and military
> managers are keenly aware of its power, but are sensitive to
> the feelings of world sovereigns and the faces of their thin
> skinned leaders.
> Consequently, it's sternly admonished to adopt a low profile
> - by staying out of reach and out of sight. But is war ready
> - at all times - to flex the empire's muscle when needed and
> to impose the empire's will when called. Borrowing a modern
> aerospace engineering parlance:
> It is a fly-by-wire empire .... :)
> Regards,
> Albert K. Fung
> Rancho del Canto, Paso Robles, California, USA.

In application of Godwin's Law variant, when a newsgroup conversation
degenerates into even attempted deconstruction - or when certain
newsgroups are deliberately and excluded - one still recognizes the
faint principle it's not falsehoods which matter but truth that hurts.

On the question of Jews and Israelites, recall the case of one Yitzhak
Rabin. Yitzhak Rabin in June 1993 rather famously remarked: "But for me
a Jewish state means that at least 80 percent of its citizens must be
Jewish. I don't want a situation of four, five million Jews and two and
a half or three million Palestinians, because we are different. We are
different entities by religion, by policies. We are different nations.
Different by nationality. I see what happens all over the world nowadays
when there are large minorities that don't want to identify with the
destiny of the state in which they are a major minority."

But as we know for one Yigal Amir, described as a radical right-wing
Orthodox Jew, Rabin (and his subsequent judgement wrt the Oslo

It appears the "modern" Middle Kingdom somehow managed to buck the trend
on Jewish matters that seem to plague WASPs and America in a macro as
well as micro sense. Macro in that China has not been pulled or pushed
into disastrous foreign policies especially in context of never-ending
warring but purported "universal" neoconservatism and endless wars;
micro where unlike WASPs China has not been domestically, well, being
just plain paved over. Not to mention the question of absorption where
WWII Jewish communities have effectively disappeared in Shanghai while
in America Jewish diaspora communities effectively _replaced_ WASPs as
new elite - in spite of and not because of relative phenotypic similarities.

So no, not only is one virtual empire incapable of winning petty foreign
skirmishes, it's incapable of even maintaining and protecting its own in
the long run - even on a simple Jewish front. ;)

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