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#1: Re: Canada Now Demands $800,000 ..the USA is selling EB5 investment

Posted on 2012-05-09 03:20:21 by RichAsianKid

On 07/05/2012 6:12 PM, baldeagle wrote:
> On May 8, 5:48 am, RichAsianKid<> wrote:
>> On 06/05/2012 6:37 PM, baldeagle wrote:
>>> On May 7, 6:16 am, RichAsianKid<> wrote:
>>>> On 01/05/2012 9:52 PM, baldeagle wrote:
>>>>> On May 2, 8:35 am, RichAsianKid<> wrote:
>>>>>> On 30/04/2012 9:45 PM, baldeagle wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 1, 9:03 am, RichAsianKid<> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 30/04/2012 12:33 AM, baldeagle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 9:10 am, RichAsianKid<> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 20/04/2012 8:51 PM, baldeagle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> .> Again, even South Korea's selling its citizenship $5M US while
>>>>>>>>> .> America's now worth a mere 10%?
>>>>>>>>>> Question now: how much is China worth?
>>>>>>>>> If you meant China's citizenship or depends.
>>>>>>>>> I have known...China has given permanent resident
>>>>>>>>> (equal to the Green Card) absolutely free of charge
>>>>>>>>> to citizens from third world nations...(eg. from Africa and
>>>>>>>>> Indonesia)....but at the same time, many Singaporeans
>>>>>>>>> were given only multiple-entry visas although they have
>>>>>>>>> invested hundreds of millions in China.
>>>>>>>>>> Can it even be sold?
>>>>>>>>> If you are talking about selling China....many Chinese
>>>>>>>>> have sold China to the CIA for less than $100 a month...
>>>>>>>>> They are selling China at whatever amount they could
>>>>>>>>> get.
>>>>>>>>> To other more patriotic Chinese...China is not for sales...
>>>>>>>>> they will defend China with their lives.
>>>>>>>> It doesn't take "patriotism" but rather just common sense to understand
>>>>>>>> no nation belongs to the world. If nationhood or identity is such
>>>>>>>> anachronism why are there more and more nations post-WWII rather than
>>>>>>>> fewer and fewer? Identity matters and will continue to matter for a long
>>>>>>>> time no matter how much utopian and egalitarian propaganda is thrown
>>>>>>>> against human nature. I against my brother, I and my brother against our
>>>>>>>> cousin, I and my cousin against the world.
>>>>>>> Since the dawn of history, man has been claiming
>>>>>>> their little corners (of earth) as theirs...Many have
>>>>>>> declare that god has given the piece of land to them.
>>>>>>> Endless wars had been fought and millions had been
>>>>>>> killed...over the sovereign rights to the land.
>>>>>>> This struggle will continue ...until the end of the world
>>>>>>> for man.
>>>>>>>> As for China - it does not have to voluntarily commit the same
>>>>>>>> ideological suicide as the West - not just assuming it has spine or just
>>>>>>>> being strong enough - but as mere follower. And that's where China will
>>>>>>>> be if it follows the garden path of equality or democracy or what not.
>>>>>>>> At least the West had an excuse when reconstructing the world half
>>>>>>>> century ago. Modern China has no excuse to follow a failed experiment.
>>>>>>> Who say China is following the path of 'democracy' (as
>>>>>>> defined by the West) ?
>>>>>>> I believe....the Chinese leaders have been dutifully following
>>>>>>> Teng Xiao Ping's two simple guidelines:-
>>>>>>> ���It doesn't matter if a cat is black or white,
>>>>>>> so long as it catches mice, it is a good cat��� and
>>>>>>> (to ensure stability and orderly leader successions)
>>>>>>> his guideline is: "Institutions and laws must not change
>>>>>>> whenever the leadership changes, or whenever
>>>>>>> the leaders change their views or shift their focus."
>>>>>>> In these ways, China has NOT been following
>>>>>>> the path of democracy. China is following her
>>>>>>> own path(���)...I must say...a very successful path.
>>>>>> This post-Darwin notion is true
>>>>>> "It doesn't matter if a cat is black or white,
>>>>>> so long as it catches mice, it is a good cat"
>>>>>> but then you're suddenly suggesting rule of law rather than rule of men?
>>>>>> "(to ensure stability and orderly leader successions)
>>>>>> his guideline is: 'Institutions and laws must not change
>>>>>> whenever the leadership changes, or whenever
>>>>>> the leaders change their views or shift their focus.'"
>>>>> By saying this, was Teng XioaPing suggesting china
>>>>> must follow the West in the rule of law ...or he is saying
>>>>> institutions and laws must not change directions like the
>>>>> wind (popularity)....
>>> .> > I think, he (Teng) was more concern about the succession
>>> .> > of leadership.. and that China must appoint only good
>>> .> > and able leaders to rule China.
>>> .> To put it the same Darwinian vein again, you agree it's not
>>> .> who's right that wins; it's the winner who's right.
>>> The Darwin not about being right or being
>>> wrong.
>>> It is about the ability to change ..the ability to adopt
>>> to the changing environment. Those who can... survived
>>> and those who can't...perished.
>> Isn't democracy just another ponderous elephant? (In more down-to-earth
>> way, ahem, where ng posters can understand, isn't it more like an
>> S-class Mercedes vs even a lowly but swift Lotus Elise?)
>> Will 50 years of human make-believe be sufficient to eliminate 50,000
>> years of evolution?
> Yes. Democracy (US style) will failed like it did in Greece
> long ago. In fact, democracy is already unraveling in
> the USA.
> Teng XiaoPing's teaching NOT about democracy...
> it is about "how to govern China" is about how to
> change is how to appoint leaders (with proven
> ability) to govern ensure continued success.
> Teng's teaching...on how to change China for the better...
> is in line with Darwin evolution. For this reason,
> China will have a better chance of success than
> US democracy.

Again it doesn't concern the "system"; it's outcome.

I must also reiterate and add especially given numbers even in
"democracy" China has advantage in the long run.

If you're pro-China there's nothing you should fear.

It's only Darwin. ;)

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#2: 试发

Posted on 2012-05-09 13:27:14 by "wangli"

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